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 Posted 06/07/2020  6:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oak to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone. Would anyone know how to help me encourage this Russian currency?I acquired as being from Ivan I
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 Posted 06/07/2020  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Knowing the mass of the coin will help.

You can then use Numista to compare a legend with 4 lines to coins from Ivan: https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ru...mpire-2.html

There are also members like january1may who will see this tomorrow an help.
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I did research and found out that it "Novgorodian of kopeck Ivan the Terrible, minted 1547-1584"
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Thank you friend . Is the coin photo in the right direction or upside down?
Can you help me indicate a Russian legends...It is? https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces43465.html
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The coin is upside down.
Sorry, but I did not understand your second question.
The legend is indicated on the site, isn't it?
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Thank you friend. I have no knowledge of Russian or the Cyrillic alphabet. My question is whether the inscriptions are those of the numista link.
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The inscription on your coin coincides with the data of the website. The fact is that the way to create these coins is quite primitive ( you can look at the photo below and see for yourself)
#1040;-ingot of silver

#1073;-rolling on the wire and cutting,

#1074;-flattening,

#1075; - stamps for manual coinage,

#1076;-ready-made coins " scales"

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Therefore, on exactly the same type of coins, the letters may be misaligned, poorly minted, or missing.

Here's the legend:
Lettering:
#1062;#1056;#1068; #1048;
#1050;#1053;S#1068; #1042;
#1045;#1051;I#1050;I I#1042;
#1040;#1053;#1066; #1042;#1057;#1045;
I#1040; #1056;#1059;#1057;I

Translation: Tsar and Grand Prince Ivan of all Rus

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What's the weight?

It doesn't have the title "Tsar", only "Grand Prince", so it's from 1533-1547. Offhand, I can't think of any kopek issues with the spear reverse that had Ivan's name but not "Tsar"; it could well be a rare type.

EDIT: looks like it's Numista 111788, KG 76, Novgorod mint, 1538-47. This is the only type with the feature combination described above. Sadly, it's not very rare.
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Thank you all for your help
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