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Rare Islamic Coin 1450 Year Old

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Hello guys,

I am Ali I have a rare islamic coin wich is almost 1450 year old(13 hijri).
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Please post a picture of the other side of coin.
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This is actually a modern Indian mosque token perhaps 100 years old, not a coin. https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=11747
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Welcome to the forum and thank you for sharing it with us. There is a lot of history from your area (Pakistan).

Can you give us some history on the ruler that produced the coin? Which calendar is used to determine the date?

For those on the site that are interested in Middle Eastern and Asian coins here is a LINK to the "Creounity Time Machine" that can be used to date coins from many of those regions.
http://creounity.com/apps/time_mach....htm&lang=en

Many of us may not be familiar with the characters on this coin but they can be learned with a little effort.

ps. Thank you Kushanshah for the info on it being a more modern Mosque "token". That explains the structure on the reverse(?). I was looking it over quickly to find a date but wasn't seeing anything.
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... perhaps 100 years old, not a coin.

Something tells me the OP might not be shocked by that.

Or by pointing out that Hijri 13 is around 635 AD, and hence more like "nearly 1390 years old." (Some days my math isn't quite what it should be either).

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Perhaps the most obvious "tell" is the flowing Nastaliq script which did not come into use until about the 15th century. Arabic inscriptions on early Islamic coins are always in Kufic script.
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I dont think it is more than a 100 years. Just look at how round is the shape of it and how clear is the drawings it have been made in a machine.
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Date is clearly mentioned on the coin.This is after some cleaning.
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Sorry, but your "coin" is not actually a coin, and is not very old. It certainly bears the number "13" on it, but that number is not the date it was made. These "Islamic pilgrim tokens", and "Indian temple tokens" generally, bear all kinds of numbers on them, most of which don't seem to mean anything. Perhaps they are batch numbers which the token-maker used for quality control.

You can find similar "mosque-type" Islamic pilgrim tokens to yours in this thread, this thread and this thread.

There are no genuine Islamic coins dated as old as Year 13. The oldest known coin to bear an Islamic date are these Arab-Sassanian drachms dated Year 35. The Arabic numerals, such as the "13" used on your token, were not commonly used on coins until long afterwards.
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