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Get Rid Of The Penny?

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Poll Question
After reading coinsrus's 'Get rid of the dollar bill' it made me think of some thing that's been on my mind for a while. Should they stop minting the one cent coin or as it's more comonly known as the penny.

The prose are: we wont get taxed as much because it takes Two Cents to make one penny.

The cons: prices will rise to the nearest five cents. They'll RISE of course because "Why make less money when you could make more. This will be bad for service lenders. Doctors,Lawers,Judges etc.
If they just didn't make as many we would pay less taxes and prices wouldn't rise.
So I vote 'Lower mintage'.

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 Keep minting
 Stop mintage
 Lower mintage
 Increase mintage

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Well.... they can always make it out of cheaper metals.

Anyways, they can keep the penny, but the people could choose not to use it. This is the same in Mexico, where they are still minting the 5c and 10c coins, even though everyone uses the 20c as the main coin.

Also as a note, the Swiss didn't use the 1r coin for I think 30 years before the mint stopped production in 2002. Up to then, the 1r coins were not used in commerce, but in bank transactions and at the post office.
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 Posted 11/13/2008  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FreezerBurn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stop minting after the circulating 2009 Lincoln commems. No proofs, no SMS. Nothing. Enough is enough.
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Get rid of the Penny?

Why do I care?
I don't live in England.
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The UK will probably get rid of the penny before the US gets rid of the "penny". Similarly getting rid of the dollar bill is virtually impossible for one reason or another.

Generally Americans seem very attached to their coin and currency denominations, personally I find it very strange? Especially from a nation the prides itself on embracing change and progress. I thought it was us Brits that had the reputation for hanging on to the past!
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 Posted 11/13/2008  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tepritts to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With all the other problems on the table for USA, I think the penny will continue for awhile. Unless someone determines the cent is contributing to Global warming, then it's doomed.

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 Posted 11/13/2008  7:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JP324 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with TreasHunt!
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Mint it only for collectors, and for mint sets, as a sort of legacy. Stop minting it for circulation.

If the metal it's made from is worth more than the coin, then it's time to rethink why you even have it anymore.
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 Posted 11/13/2008  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bowfin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As much as I like our penny/cent, it pains me to say it would make perfect fiscal sense to have the '09s be the final year it is minted.

The reason we even have to consider this angers me beyond belief. But, that is water under the bridge. We have to deal with the here and now.

With the hyper inflation we have coming, even the nickel will be obsolete for the same reason.

We used to price things(including postage stamps) in tenths of a cent, debasement of the dollar put an end to that. Soon we will be pricing in tenths of a dollar instead of hundreths for the same reason.

The cent will go the way of the Half Cent. Then the nickel...

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I believe I read somewhere that the biggest problem with the penny or cent or most low denomination coins is that people simply do not circulate them.
Think about it , any given house in any given country has the obligatory penny jar.
Millions of pennys all doing nothing.So they need to keep minting more and of course the price goes up over time , nothing remains the same.
Empty half the piggy banks and penny jars and use them is the only way to save them...ironic eh ?
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Good point
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Anyways, they can keep the penny, but the people could choose not to use it. This is the same in Mexico, where they are still minting the 5c and 10c coins, even though everyone uses the 20c as the main coin.

this is true but they would still mint and we would still pay
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I remember when decimalisation took place in the UK and they reintroduced the halfpenny.
Biggest mistake ever , nobody used them , society on the whole seemed to dismiss them and they were withdrawn within a short time.
Really bites to think..i bet they will be rare someday and we used to throw them away.

Threw away in the sense they always went into a drawer never to be used , probably did end up in the trash at some point.
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As a coin collector, I'd like to keep minting the cent. However, as a taxpayer, I say stop unless a method of production that doesn't lose money can be developed (which seems pretty unlikely).
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They could quietly scale back the mintage or quit making them altogether and it would probably be years before they "ran out" of them. I see that as a way to get all of those cent filled coin jars back into circulation. The reality may be that if the cent ended production without fanfare, people would subconsciously adapt to not having it since many people ignore them now.
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prices will rise to the nearest five cents. They'll RISE of course because "Why make less money when you could make more.

Argument against the "CON". You round your prices up and I'll round mine down My prices will be lower and I'll pick up more business and I will make more money than you do. The "I'll make a little less but make it up in volume" argument.

As for the idea about reducing the mintages so as to encourage the cents to come back out of the penny jars. It won't work. It would create a shortage of cents for change. There have been cent shortages before and it didn't get the coins to come back out. Even when banks offered a premium over face to try and get the coins it was pretty much a failure. So what happens? One of three things. You wind up either having to take pieces of candy as change, or the business goes ahead and rounds all their prices just as they would if there were no cents available, or they charge what the register says and if you have the cents you pay exact change but if you don't you get short changed. The first and third options aren't much different from your "Everyone just rounds UP" scenario but with an extra layer of headaches added. The second is the same result as if you just stop coinage. So scaling back mintages has no advantage, and merely causes a lot of annoyance.
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