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Help Identify Date Doubling On 1979 Lincoln

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 Posted 11/13/2008  03:40 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi, I need you help in identifying the type of doubling on this 1979 Lincoln coin. Your inputs would surely help. Thank you.

junjie

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 Posted 11/13/2008  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Machine Doubling for sure. It's flat, mashed down, step-like, has no notching, has no 'character'. These are easy to spot.

NOW...take the coin, put it in a flip, mark it as Machine Doubling, and KEEP it. Use it next time you run into the same question. Also, take your next $15 for coins and check ebay for a raw, decent shape 1995 DDO and buy it. Study that coin and this coin and the lights will go on. The difference is obvious enough that my mother could pick them after such an exercise.
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 Posted 11/13/2008  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yup, Machine Doubling, and a good piece to keep, as copper coins stated.

A clear reference piece for the future.
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 Posted 11/13/2008  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey coppercoins, if its a Machine Doubling so be it. The reason I post it is because I want to learn from you guys!! You are supposed to be pillars of this forum and encouraging feedbacks will always be welcomed.

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 Posted 11/13/2008  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did I do something wrong here?
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 Posted 11/14/2008  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think so....

Occasionally when we don't beat around the bush and we get right to the point it is taken as being less than encouraging.

I think the advice that you gave was good advice. It actually does encourage people to use the coins they find as educational tools even when it is Machine Doubling damage. Nothing wrong with that.

Suggesting the purchase of an inexpensive and fairly dramatic doubled die variety to use for educational purposes sounds like a good idea to me too.

The last line in your post, although true, might not have been taken with the sense of humor that was intended ;-)

I don't think anything wrong was done:-)

Thanks,
Bill
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11/14/2008 01:23 am
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 Posted 11/14/2008  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjiesalvador to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your advice is well taken coppercoins, the last line of your post as foundinrolls suggested is uncalled for. Anyway, drop the whole thing and lets continue with this interesting hobby.

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 Posted 11/14/2008  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
junjie:
As a reference piece, your find is invaluable.

I don't know how many times I have seen prople who have bought them as DDO's.

They had expensive lessons.
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 Posted 11/14/2008  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just to be sure that words are not added to my post indirectly, I did not say anything about the line being uncalled for, only that Chuck's humor may have been missed by some..
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 Posted 11/17/2008  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see it as uncalled for, and I didn't slight anyone with what I said.

My mother knows very little about coins, but when I showed her a real doubled die and Machine Doubling together, she was 100% at picking the difference time and time again. She now knows how to tell the difference without a problem, and she spends zero time looking through coins. She only sees the ones I give her to look at.

So, with this to wit, my statement stands. If people here who have trouble seeing the obvious difference between Machine Doubling and doubled dies would simply pony up the $10 for an example of one of the more dramatic and common doubled dies (such as the 1995 DDO or either of 1972P die #3 or die #8) they would instantly be able to tell the differences, which are dramatic and obvious.

I see this as a natural part of the education process for anyone interested in die varieties. I started this when I was 10, and didn't have the money or resources to own a real doubled die until I was 15. During that five years I was in a haze of lacking understanding why doubling was so easy to find yet it was so valuable, then I got my first doubled die Lincoln - and instantly realized much of what I had been saving was junk. It was that fast - the lights went on and I started on the right path of hunting for varieties rather than saving junk.

All I do here is suggest the same thing, and used the story about my mother as my reasoning. Showing her two coins, one doubled die and one machine doubled coin, she was able to tell which was which without any explanation. She has since been successful at telling the difference without help.

Perhaps a number of the people here who still don't know the difference should heed the advice instead of choosing to stay in the haze not knowing what they are looking for.

Someone else chime in who recently had the light go on and tell how good it feels...you actually know something about what you've chosen as a hobby, and it feels good to have that knowledge.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was right in line. This is how we learn.
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11/17/2008 3:25 pm
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