Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Italian Coin - Please Judge

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 2,676Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
DL20K's Avatar
Poland
3201 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  2:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
On the right you have a usual 10 Lire, 1954.
So, what's on the left?

Found today in a 5-pound lot.

Italian-Coin---Please-Judge

Italian-Coin---Please-Judge

Italian-Coin---Please-Judge

--moved to the World Variety & Error forum because it represents an interesting variety--or possible forgery--moderator
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a bad copy.
Pillar of the Community
snowman's Avatar
United States
1840 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snowman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aluminum is a soft metal. I bet that you could reproduce those results with a spoon.
Pillar of the Community
DL20K's Avatar
Poland
3201 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Including the fact that the 3rd stem goes through the 1 in the denomination, instead of the 2nd?
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16827 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, it looks like a circulating counterfeit to me. It looks good enough at first glance; it's only when you put it side by side with a genuine one that you can clearly see differences. I needed to see the closeup of the wording to even notice what the problem with it was.

So, the next question is, why would anyone go around making fake 10 lire pieces? Even back in the fifties, 10 lire wouldn't buy you much.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Pillar of the Community
Archraz's Avatar
United States
3499 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2008  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
heh. Interesting, interesting.
Valued Member
rosso_rubino's Avatar
Italy
244 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2008  01:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rosso_rubino to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also never seen a 10 Lire so bad produced or conterfeit, anyway keep in mind that in 1955 Italy mint around 275.000.000 of 10 Lire, so some bad production may be done.
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2008  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How cool...there are major position differences on the 10 in relation to the wheat stalks. Wear couldn't do that.
Since it's cruder work than the normal coin, I'd guess counterfeit too--or a really strange die pair. Either way, nice find!
Pillar of the Community
DL20K's Avatar
Poland
3201 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2008  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update.

I checked every single L.10 coin I have (24 pieces in total) and none have the obverse or reverse characteristics of this one. No matter how worn/damaged they are. Other two 1955 pieces that I have are also normal.
Valued Member
SPQR's Avatar
United States
327 Posts
 Posted 11/14/2008  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's really bad. Perfect crime though-who would think to check 10L coins for counterfeits?
Valued Member
Singapore
104 Posts
 Posted 11/16/2008  10:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add haidee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i think it's a bad copy, too :)
faking small denominations often get away easy... simply because none would even think it's worth to fake it
Pillar of the Community
manila galleon trade's Avatar
Spain
1361 Posts
 Posted 11/17/2008  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
haidee it's a rare copy not made in china.
Pillar of the Community
NumisMattyUk's Avatar
United Kingdom
2217 Posts
 Posted 11/18/2008  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah! Why bother making a fake 10 Lire was my first thought...I mean, it was nothing when they were still
using them just prior to adoption of the Euro, but was it worth anything back in the fifties?
Nah..
Really odd. A keeper.
Valued Member
PSPVinyls's Avatar
United States
150 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2017  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PSPVinyls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After hearing so much about counterfeits, I'm beginning to suspect that the one I have might be as well.
It's a 1954 and when you hold it so the 10 is facing you, flipping it over to the reverse shows the REPVBBLICA ITALIANA vertically.
I'll upload a photo later if anyone is interested.
Valued Member
United States
223 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2017  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CollectionMaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks fat
Pillar of the Community
999fine's Avatar
United States
1346 Posts
 Posted 06/19/2017  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely different
  Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 2,676Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.98 seconds to rattle this change. Forums