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 Posted 11/14/2008  10:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-BU-1983-P-WAS...-K_W0QQitemZ130268140165QQihZ003QQcategoryZ39463QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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The listing I show for a MS-65 1983-p is $45 each. I dont believe they where MS sitting in a 2x2. $20 for proof might be a ok price tho. I havn't started on my quarter collection yet. ?
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 Posted 11/14/2008  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There were no mint sets issued in 1982 or 1983, so BU examples of coins from those years are a conditional rarity.
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 Posted 11/14/2008  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm tempted by that auction... I have a complete set of silver washingtons but haven't started on the clads... From doing the dimes I know that that's going to be one of the toughest dates to find... AND THERE ARE 3 OF THEM!! I spent $20 on the dime and I suspect the quarter would run about the same amount.
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 Posted 11/15/2008  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, springcypress, The 82 and 83 Washingtons are a bit pricy. Last year, I bit the bullet and got the 82 and 83 philadelphia and denver clads. Glad I did now.

For some reason, the 86 (I think) quarter is also above the pack in price. Anyone here know why?

Another question I have is why were there no mint sets made in 82 and 83? Did the change over for the Lincolns in 82 have an effect?
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 Posted 11/15/2008  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it was a cost cutting measure by Reagan.
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 Posted 11/15/2008  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littleboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no mint sets that year so the easiest way to get MS coins is unavailable and the demand is the same as other years.
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I think it was a cost cutting measure by Reagan.

And the stupid part about it was that it cut no costs because the mint set program had no costs, it completely paid its own way. And not only did it pay its own way, it actually generated revenue. So the cost cutting measure cut revenue instead.
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 Posted 11/16/2008  07:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add L1011 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is that why the high premium for an '82? because there was no mint sets that year? it appears that mintage was high that year
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I looked up this coin too. WOW The mintage was about normal along with the other years, so its interesting its as high as it is. Why would the coin be high if no mint sets were made that year? You could still get a proof with not a real high premium on it for 1983. I wonder if the 1983 p is one of those modern coins that overpriced for no real good reason at all I honestly do not see anything that special about it but I have yet to start my modern quarter collection (with the exception of the State Quarters)
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I need an BU quarter, dime, and nickel for holes in my collection...Just can't see paying this much of a premium
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The mintage was about normal along with the other years, so its interesting its as high as it is. Why would the coin be high if no mint sets were made that year? You could still get a proof with not a real high premium on it for 1983. I wonder if the 1983 p is one of those modern coins that overpriced for no real good reason at all

Mint Sets are essentially a reserve of uncirculated coins for each year and mint mark for collectors. The mintage is irrelevant, what matters is the number that were held back from circulation. The only way to do that in significant quantity was to save rolls and bags which most people do not do. If the vast majority of a particular mintage goes directly to circulation, then the surviving population of mint state coins is low. For all of the years except 1982 and 1983, the Mint Sets have provided an extra 1-2 million mint state coins for collectors. That 1-2 million coin buffer in addition to the ones held back from circulation have created an ample supply for collectors for most years- except 1982 and 1983. Since those years are scarce in mint state grades, their values skew higher. Another problem is that the quality of most coins from 1982 and 1983 was of a lousy quality- weak strikes, worn dies, and corroding Zincolns. The truly gem examples can bring a significant amount of money for a "seemingly common" modern coin.

Also,the value of the 1982 proofs has no bearing since they tend to stay pristine and never circulate- if you want a mint state coin, you do not purchase a proof as a substitute(not counting 19th century proofs where some proofs are less expensive and easier to find than the business strikes).
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I've been enlightened, thanks
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 Posted 11/21/2008  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markapsolon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for answering that question but I still think 1982 and 1983 quarters are overpriced even if the mint did not make any mint sets.
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 Posted 11/21/2008  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only quarters which carry a real premium are those that are MS. Like it or not, they're expensive and IMO one of the better investments in modern coinage.
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The proof sells for the same price as the other coins of that era.

There were a lot more of these rolls set aside at the time because everyone knew there wouldn't be mint sets. The problem was that there were almost no coins being set aside and when this number was doubled or tripled it still wasn't nearly enough for long term demand.
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