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Your Grading Verdict Of This 1900 Morgan Dollar

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I've been offered this, what do we think from the photos provided?


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Pics of both sides with much more light on the surfaces would help.
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Like Coinfrog said, the images are inadequate for grading. It's a common date Morgan that would need to be gem level to bring any premium over a low MS type coin. I grade it $40 retail if asking my opinion from those images.

Here's a nice example of a 1900-P Morgan in MS63 (PCGS OGH) that brought $52 recently. https://www.davidlawrence.com/product/1924946/
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I agree on the need for better photos. I can see some nice clash marks on the reverse, though. With better pics, we may be able to grade it and point you toward a possible VAM.
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Tough to tell from photos but my inclination would be to say MS details, altered surfaces. Something looks off. Possibly polished.
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very difficult with this lighting to determine surface preservation. the lighting is making look like it had a polish. I'm thinking its just lighting and angle
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The first photos hide a lot of marks that can be seen in the photo of it on the scale. Pass on a grade without better photos.
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Thanks everyone. I have asked for better photos with more light but not had a response, which is never a good sign. I'll post them if I do get more photos. It's at £60 currently so it will have to be quite stunning and have mega luster to warrant the price really.
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Okay, seller has responded with some photos. I asked for more light on the coins...Still not bright enough for me.
Not sure these help much.
Lustre looks very good though and very clean fields too.


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the coin is MS. I originally thought it was polished but the 1st new photo of the obverse kind of dispels that. the seller does not know how to take photos as the only one decent enough to judge anything on is the new obverse photo. just based on that photo I'm at MS64
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The new photos help some. The eighth photo from the top shows much more obverse detail. The reverse photos still lack the needed detail.

The detailed obverse photo appears to show disruption of luster in the center of the cheek, on the large bear claw, in the hair above the ear, on the ear lobe, and (importantly) possible luster disruption between the tip of the nose and the seventh left star and between the ribbon and the sixth right star and "M" of UNUM. This photo also shows significant contact marks on the cheek, in the hair above the ear, on the forehead and eyebrow.

The pictures still are not clear enough for accurate grading, but what I see in that one photo is enough for me to believe this coin has seen some circulation. I think this may be a mid- or high-AU coin. If so, it would be around a $35 coin.

That's the best I can attempt with the pictures that the seller has made available.

EDIT: @panzaldi is a superb grader, and when we see the same coin this far apart, it speaks volumes about the quality of the photos.
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It's at £60 currently so it will have to be quite stunning and have mega luster to warrant the price really.


Yes, too high. It looks like a common date slider to me. I wouldn't spend more than $25 USD on it. $30 tops.
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Thanks so much for the detailed responses. It'll be a pass from me on this one at the current price!
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