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Oak Valued Member Brazil 117 Posts	Posted 07/15/2020 11:49 am Hello friends. I have the opportunity to acquire these two coins, associated with Abbasids Al-mansur Dirham. Would they say they are true or a modern fake? Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 07/15/2020 6:20 pm @oak, can you please post weight and diameter info on both coins? Also, please share why you think that they might be fakes. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Oak Valued Member Brazil 117 Posts	Posted 08/27/2020 2:21 pm I have no weight and size. Can I really attribute the two to Al-Mansur? Edited by Oak 08/27/2020 3:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 08/27/2020 4:09 pm The top photo is too far out of focus to be of much use. The bottom coin is of al-Mahdi, Madinat al-Salam, AH 160 and appears genuine. Edited by Kushanshah 08/27/2020 4:12 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16817 Posts	Posted 08/28/2020 08:10 am I think the top photo might actually be a case of "severely worn coin" rather than "out of focus". These coins are rarely faked, as they have little interest to Western collectors. They're also quite thin, and so are difficult to make realistic fakes of using either mould-casting or with modern machinery. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 08/28/2020 11:57 am Not long ago, either here or in another forum, someone asked for an opinion on a pair of early dirhams which looked convincing individually but when placed side by side were perfect twins. Very deceptive. The top photo reminds me of them broadly which is why I hesitated to give an opinion without a better, legible photo. Fakes are unfortunately more common than has been suggested. Edited by Kushanshah 08/28/2020 11:59 am Report this Post to the Staff
Pheroow Valued Member United Arab Emirates 283 Posts	Posted 09/23/2020 09:48 am The top coin is an Abbasid dirham from Al-'Abbasiya mint, date AH 167(?). This crude style is common amongst North African dirhams of this period. It also cites the governor in the lower reverse field, which is possibly Yazid but hard to tell. Looks perfectly genuine. Report this Post to the Staff
mohammadaak Valued Member United Arab Emirates 79 Posts	Posted 10/05/2020 03:33 am Quote: These coins are rarely faked, as they have little interest to Western collectors. I would disagree. The main market for Islamic dirhams is Gulf countries and the market there is huge. Most auctions in the US and London are attended online by big collector communities from the Gulf, and fakes do circulate in the market quite often. With that said, the coin looks to be genuine, since as mentioned above, the crudeness of style is common with first period Abbasid dirhams from North Africa. Report this Post to the Staff
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