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 Posted 11/16/2008  8:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was checking out this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1838-O-Seated-H...ce_W0QQitemZ270300353364QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item270300353364&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72:1205|66:4|65:12|39:1|240:1318

And found it on teletrade:

http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....imagetype=j2

Granted, I think the coin is close to XF if not there, and the seller got it RIDICULOUSLY cheap (Anacs VF 30 details cleaned went for $690 on heritage) but still, shouldn't describe it as 'a beautiful original example' and at least described the problems.
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 Posted 11/17/2008  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trdhrdr007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It certainly looks to me like the same coin. NCS & Teletrade seem to think this is a problem coin, I guess this seller knows better. Here's a direct quote from the auction I thought was pertinent, with the important part highlighted in red.


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Grading: We grade our coins conservatively. Any known problems with the coin will be mentioned in the description. We do not hide problems of any sort.


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 Posted 11/17/2008  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the VF+ grade on Teletrade. ebay is notorious for this type of thing and is a very dangerous place to buy raw coins.

Other than bullion, I've only purchased 1 raw coin over $200 on ebay and got burned.

Lesson learned: Don't buy expensive raw coins on the Bay unless you know the seller and/or they have a stated return policy.
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 Posted 11/26/2008  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like same coin to me, too. Went for $150 on Heritage. The thing that concerns me is that the coin looks like it was further cleaned, so the seller or an associate of the seller may have further cleaned it up and not disclosed it?
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I believe this is the same guy who has been buying problem key coins and selling them as genuine on ebay. I think this is his third or fourth time doing it. I posted a thread on him(about his old screen name). He was also mentioned a lot on the PCGS forums so you can also search there.
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