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1972 LMC DDR On Ebay?

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What do you guys think of this?

The O in ONE is what first got my attention.




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Looks like a DDR to me. What's the date, and is it listed?
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1972, no DDRs listed for that year.

Unsure if it's a DDR. Looks like one but...I don't know.
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Looks like severe MD to me. No split serifs. The doubled areas arent raised like the original devices. The devices are a lot thinner where there isn't any supposed doubling. Just my opinion
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Something looks seriously off about the "doubling" on this coin.
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MD doesn't usually form like that. It goes towards, or away from the rim, not clockwise/counterclockwise. The O, M, and R show it pretty well.

The O just doesn't...I don't know, I'm unsure whether I agree but it might be. The lighting could be set in a way to form this look.

The thing that's weird is there are some of what people would call "obvious DDO" but then there are doubling on the devices that matches MD. I would like to get Coop's opinion.

Honestly, if that O wasn't the way it was, I would say MD but the O has the form of an actual DDO and it doesn't make much sense to me.

EDIT: Take a look at his other coins, the ones around 1974-1971, look at the reverses. Some of it has the same type of doubling. Very strange: https://www.ebay.com/sch/wilcarmi1/...g=200&_from=

This is what I'm talking about, the reverses still aren't the same but look at the O, this is a 1972 S, not the coin mentioned in the OP: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-S-Unc...AOSw9-9e4m12
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I wonder if this coin was pictured inside a holder.
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What would that do to it Joseph, if it was photographed from inside a holder? Lighting issues?
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The holder can sometimes create illusions of doubling. I'm not saying that is what is happening here for certain, but it could be.
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Fair enough, that is a possibility. But I've never seen, or heard of a holder that could bend light in a way to create that effect, but who knows.

I ordered the coins because it was only a buck, felt like I should examine it myself.
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I think it is glare/shadow. The bottom of CE shows it too.
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Hello SilverCents

Maybe a lighting issue... I would upload a side by side but I am terrible at it.
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No notching anywhere I can see and other doubling would be visible. Meaning the other doubling would be offset (N,S,E, or W), rotational, or one of the other classes of doubling.

I have a feeling it is lighting or MD but an image of the obverse and a closeup of the O would help.

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But what happens when you invert the colors?
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Then you see the Machine Doubling that the least amount of glare is hiding.
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I would stay away from this one unless they give better stronger pics of genuine Die Doubling.
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