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Morgan Dollar On Silver Quarter Planchet Error?

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Hi, I found this strange Morgan design on a Silver Quarter Planchet.
weight is 6.25g which is correct, Diameter is 20mm and thickness 3mm.
I know diameter and thickness is way off for a quarter.
Also the edge is plain.
Probably someone cut a Morgan dollar or so, just wanted to get some opinion... Thx in advance! &
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The rounded over reverse edge and flat jagged obverse edge sure looks like it could have been punched out of Morgan dollar.
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Okay Thx, I honestly couldn't find anything about a Morgan dollar on a quarter planchet on the web, are there any confirmed coins somewhere?
I'll try to post more pics from the edge ASAP.
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Plain Edge leads me to think someone just cut out the center of a Morgan dollar post mint.
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Here's some pics from the edge. I'm still curious about it.
Also, why is the diameter and thickness different from a regular quarter!? &
Any ideas are appreciated &
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why is the diameter and thickness different from a regular quarter!?


Because this piece has nothing to do with a quarter. Although I haven't seen one of these before, it certainly looks like someone took a Morgan dollar and punched out a core--you can see the shear marks along the cut surface. The diameter is therefore what ever size punch was used and the thickness should be close to that of a normal Morgan dollar.
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I agree with PMD.
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Just mischief.
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Thx all for your opinion! I think the same, someone cut out a Morgan dollar for fun. Although it's unclear why the cotton bolls are not cut right, there it looks like the boll top is 'fading'...
I'll keep it definitely as a fun piece.

(thickness is a little more than an Uncirculated Morgan but that could just be my bad measurement skills).

Should I take it to a coin show to get an expert opinion!?
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google "how to make a Morgan dollar coin ring" and you will find the source of your dump. (dump is the term for the piece punched out of a coin, it is not a pejorative)
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I will check that although this is neither a ring or a real Morgan dollar but maybe it helps :)

I appreciate your thoughts
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Should I take it to a coin show to get an expert opinion!?


No, people would be annoyed that you are wasting their time. It's just a damaged coin. Worth whatever melt value is on roughly half a Morgan. $7?
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From the odd color and grainy surfaces plus the weak details I think this could be punched out of a counterfeit dollar. Oh and the idea of it being a quarter planchet should have been dismissed immediately, It's 20mm in diameter, a quarter planchet is over 24 mm and would have spread even larger under the force of the strike.
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This was an "idle time project" by someone with access to a machine shop.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CapeCoralCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thx again, I'll just keep it as an odd 'somebody had too much time' item :)



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