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What Should I Do About Helping Someone With Selling Their Collection?

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 Posted 07/21/2020  12:24 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a relative who has a collection I was trying to help them but they dont want to lend me any coins to show others. I wanted to show others so I can sell them to people. The thing is they are old and cant do much. In the end they felt as if I wanted to take the collection away from them. I feel insulted but ill get over it. What should I have done to help? IF you wondering It could have been any which one they picked I just wanted to show one or two.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to ungrateful people.

A few years ago a neighbor asked me to look at his collection and see if it's worth anything. It was basically 3000 wheat cents in various states of poor condition. I sorted them all into separate bags. Before 1920, 1921 to 1930, 1931 to 1940 and 1941+

There wasn't one cent that was worth a dollar. Even the pre 1920 stuff was in terrible condition with environmental damage. After sorting everything add telling he was better off selling them for copper value, he got mad and accused of stealing his 1909 "pennies" when they were in the pre 1920 bag. Last time I'll help someone, lots of people are ungrateful. Use it as a learning lesson.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nfine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 2 cents worth.

Make your elderly relatives comfortable by reviewing the items in their home. Ask permission to open boxes, rolls, envelopes, etc. Treat these items, regardless of value, better than you would treat your own collection. Use on-line resources to show them potential values for their treasures. There have been so many terrible stories of people victimizing their older family members these folks may be a little scared to trust anyone with their collection. Assure them you are only interested in helping them and will only do what they ask. Go slow, let them get comfortable with sharing, and only do what they ask you to do. I'm sure they didn't mean to insult you, they are just being cautious. If you identify items you feel have particular value, ask permission to photograph them and share the photos with others.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the solution is pretty simple. Find the closest lcs and if you are interested in buying them tell them you give them an estimate if they aren't happy with the lcs offer.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hfhacinto I'm sorry for all that work you put into it did you pour out all the coins back into one pile? lol

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 Posted 07/21/2020  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nfine I like your approach it didnt ever get that far. I tried with bringing books RedBook and others my own examples to share so we can talk about em but yeah it was as if I was alone in the room. I put my stuff away and stopped sharing and said I should have made sure that he was serious about selling them... He even said I was going to get two of my choosing and rip to that offer... lol tough tough what can I say. Thats life I guess. Now I dont even talk about it with em when we would talk lots about coins. So sad really.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Relative... best advice stay out of it . Obvious from what you said , the person will
Trust no one .
Sort of the same when you lend a friend or relative money ... the end result is not good!
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@youngmaster,

I actually pulled out the 1909 out of the bag to show him and a 1911, he said the ones he had were in better condition and I walked out. Honestly I'll help if asked but I won't offer help, and I'll forward them that most likely nothing is worth much.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add machine20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
stop helping them and forget about it
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 Posted 07/21/2020  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collects82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Classic examples of "it's not you, it's them". They are from a different generation in an elderly state of mind. nfine's advice is about as solid as you are going to get, but even then, they are gonna be who they are at this point. Just move on.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add captaincoffee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the only other thing you could have offered to do is maybe take some photos of a few of the key coins at their house so you could help find value/buyers. As others have said, you can only help as much as someone is willing to give up their control. Try not to feel insulted, chalk it up to a misunderstanding, and don't allow it to affect the relationship if possible. They are "just" coins.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ghawk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you are going to get involved at all, (and I'm not sure at this point after what you said about them you should) I'm with nfine. I think his advice is spot on.
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07/21/2020 4:05 pm
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It was nice of you to try but understand the old adage, you can lead a house to water but you can't make him drink...
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 Posted 07/21/2020  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Check Lancek's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lancek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chances are they are going to be disappointed in what they get for it. Large collections are not easy or profitable for most people to sell. Showing them RedBook numbers isn't realistic. Chances are they will get 30-40% below that at an LCS. Selling through a local auctioneer would cost them 20-25% in commission. Selling on sites like ebay is time consuming, and you still lose 13% between ebay and paypal. And if you don't have an established reputation as a seller, you prob won't get retail.

Better if you are not involved in the transaction.
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 Posted 07/21/2020  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do not get involved. As a general rule, regardless of what you say, they will always suspect you are trying to cheat them .
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 Posted 07/22/2020  03:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add youngmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate all your wisdom shared here I know better now. Either buy their collection or send them away.
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