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Valued Member
United States
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Why is this coin graded a MS67? Can I request this guy to grade my coins? (humor) This is their description: A wonderful array of rich patina covers lustrous, superb gem surfaces. Scarce in the top grades, with an NGC population of 12 with a lone example finer. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-D-Mor...324087546206    Edited by Steven49
07/28/2020 6:24 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
857 Posts |
The toning likely got the coin 2 extra points, personally I don't understand why this is seen as an "eye appealing" example, the toning is way too noisy and it just feels like it completely overwhelms any other characteristics of this coin, as well as dulls what could be an extremely lustrous coin.
Eye appeal to me is 3/10
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Pillar of the Community
United States
663 Posts |
Scratches everywhere, looks to have been cleaned, ugly toning, and overall terrible eye appeal, I would say AU or MS DETAILS at most, or an F in school grading scales
Edited by Nieuw
07/28/2020 6:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
8938 Posts |
Because it is MS67. I'm assuming you think that the breaks in toning are chatter
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
17901 Posts |
I find it extremely unattractive. I'd hate to buy an MS67 coin "sight unseen" in an auction and end up with that!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8938 Posts |
I actually like the toning. Guess I'm the minority.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
5393 Posts |
I am with Grapes , that is a fantastic example of an otherwise Common Morgan .
Willing to bet in hand , you would leave drool marks all over the plastic Holder!
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Rest in Peace
United States
10625 Posts |
I like the toning but all the breaks in the toning kill the eye appeal. 21's really didn't tone well. @Cascade's avatar coin is one of the few exceptions...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5662 Posts |
The numerous toning breaks affect the eye appeal, but not the grade. Hard to tell from the photos, but I suspect it has very few bag marks and great luster in hand.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
Not a fan in the least. As stated, breaks in the toning are not scratches, but I do see a couple good gashes on the obverse, one right about the eye. Technically, not a 67, maybe a 65.... or even a 66, tough to tell through the toning.... but no 67. Personally, never understood the bump in points for toning. Bottom line, toning can change! Grade the coin based on the way the system was Initially intended, and if someone wants to pay a premium for toning, they will! Grading is subjective, but TPG's have made it even more subjective, this being one of many examples. Rant over. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1949 Posts |
My guess is that in hand, the piece has exceptional luster and the toning appears to be quite attractive.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It's almost like a piece of abstract art, where prices never make any sense to the common mind.
Edited by Coinfrog
07/28/2020 8:02 pm
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Forum Dad
United States
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Heritage pic from 2006...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Not exactly something to kill for.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3281 Posts |
If there were no breaks, I would love this coin. Toning is amazing, but those breaks are unattractive to my eyes.
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