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I have read there are different varieties of 's' mint marks on certain years and coins. Are there any years in the Wheat cent series that have more than one type of 's' mint mark? If so, do any of these carry any premium? Thanks. |
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Thanks for the link desert. The reason I asked is because I believe I have a few different styles of mink marks on a few different 1946 S cents. I added some pictures of the coins in question. Am I just seeing things or are these different styles? Image:  1946_sans_serif.jpg55.84 KB Image: 1946_sans_serif_bold.jpg67.64 KB Image: 1946_serif.jpg65.42 KB |
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You have two of the different 1946S cents there. The third is a 'ball serif' that looks completely different from those two. There is no 'Bold Sans-Serif' style. All of them are considered the same, just punched a little deeper.
Years where S mintmarks on cents come in different styles:
1928S - large and small
1941S - large and small
1943S - serif and trumpet tail
1944S - Serif, sans-serif
1945S - Serif, sans-serif
1946S - Serif, sans-serif, ball serif
1947S - Serif, ball serif
1948S - serif, ball-serif
1979S - filled, clear
1981S - filled, clear
This is from memory, so it may not be 100% accurate.
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Chuck:
Regarding the 1941S- small/large S - I have one of each in my Whitman albums.
Is the large S any more valuable as opposed to the small, without either being a RPM?
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Not yet, but I do foresee the large S mintmark being worth more in higher grades eventually. They are somewhat more scarce in MS65RD and above. I once counted nearly a thousand 1941S cents and noted that the ratio becween them is approximately 14:1 small to large.
The one to really watch for is the 1946S 'ball-serif' style mintmark. Those are at a ratio of about 40:1 others to the ball serif, and they are very scarce in high grade.
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Does anyone have a picture of the ball serif style? Also, does the 1928 S large bring any substantial premium? Thanks
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Greetings:
I've been putting a collection of mintmarks together on Lincolns. I have not found any price differences, but some are hard to find. Good Luck.
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hey chuck, you have a 42S listed with two varieties in your book, but not a 43S. typo?
theres also two varieties of 1952S. serif same as previous years and a new serif as on 53-55.
if there is in fact two 43S varieties, i'll have to start looking through all my steelies
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breen also listed 1940S as having a small and large mint mark but I have only seen "small" ones
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Regardless of what has been found, you might find the first one known by checking what you have. You never know what new finds are out there if you only look on the ones that are known. That is how I found this one. One was known on a 2004, so I started check every Zincoln for them. That is how new discoveries are made.   I have been contacted by a fellow searcher and another example of this die has been found. So there are two known so far. Keep looking and let me know if you find one. Edited by coop
11/20/2008 7:32 pm
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Greetings:
Sorry I could not find the name key to the numbers, but here is the list I have complied over the years:
MMS01 1909-16
MMS02 1917-41
MMS03 1928
MMS04 1941-42; 45-52
MMS05 1942-43
MMS06 1943-45
MMS07 1946-47
MMS08 1952-74
MMS09 1974-79
MMS10 1979-81
MMS11 1981
MMS12 1982-84
MMS13 1985-89
MMS14 1990-Present -- not sure how far this one dates to
Hope this of help. If anyone has something different I would like to know.
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Chuck - What's your current opinion on the ratio for the 1928S? I recently acquired a very nice MS64 large S from a dealer...he didn't realize what he had. Image Insert: For comparison, here's a small S:  Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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11/21/2008 3:33 pm
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BadThad - I'm not Chuck obviously, but I went through two rolls from my local dealer and found six large "S" out of the one hundred coins of 1928
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I haven't counted for the 1928 large S ratio in a long time. It has always been my understanding that the ratio is about 40:1 small to large. This study is in agreement with one performed in 1962, so I have always been happy with this assessment.
I have found quite a few large S cents, enough to fill a couple of tubes. I also have half a dozen in nicer condition, none are BU. I don't buy small S cents unless they are undergraded and underpriced.
My belief regarding value: large S about doubles the value of the small S through MS60. Beyond that the value ratio goes down substantially because of the overall rarity of either in uncirculated grades. If one of each existed in MS66RD, they would have the same value, because they would be nearly equal in condition rarity.
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My belief regarding value: large S about doubles the value of the small S through MS60. Beyond that the value ratio goes down substantially because of the overall rarity of either in uncirculated grades. If one of each existed in MS66RD, they would have the same value, because they would be nearly equal in condition rarity.
Excellent and logical assessment. The conditional rarity swamps out the large S premium. However, I do believe it should command a slightly better price. As far as the ratio, thank you. I did find Lange said this: http://books.google.com/books?id=Rz...kA#PPA155,M1Seems to me I've also read your 1:40 opinion before. I like the 1928 section in your Looking Through Lincoln Cents book. I'm still perplexed at the lack of interest in the large S by dealers and collectors. I CARE!  |
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