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1971 S LMC, Possible DDO?

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 Posted 08/17/2020  11:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Grelko to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I can't zoom in any more, or make the pictures much clearer than they already are, unless I had better equipment.

I spent almost two hours over at the PCGS, varietyvista and coppercoins websites, trying to figure out if this was a DDO or not. Maybe one of you folks can tell?


Edit - At first, I thought it was a proof coin but it's not.

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08/18/2020 3:13 pm
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 Posted 08/18/2020  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is my second proof coin in the last few days,

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this isn't a proof coin. What makes you think that it is? It appears you have a regular business strike 1971-S.

Also, I don't think you have here a DDO. It's hard to tell if there is any doubling (maybe some slight Machine Doubling) at all. Several letters in the motto and in Liberty had taken a hit and are flattened ( PMD).

It's difficult to watch the videos and see people it seem to make it look easy to find coins worth big bucks. Instead, may I suggest that you spend time not with the videos, but rather reading through past postings here within the CCF? There is lot of good info here, and in no time at all you'll be finding double-die coins! And we'll help you do it! Good luck!


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 Posted 08/18/2020  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grelko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was a proof coin, because the list I have of all the Lincoln cents made, from the littleton coin company, shows that all S cents made in 1968 and beyond were proof.

I haven't seen any listing for a business strike for cents besides that one pdf file, so I must have thought it was a proof coin at the time I made this topic.

Once I read your reply, I came across the (regular strike) on the PCGS site and saw what it looked like.

I noticed that certain spots on the coin looked flatened and couldn't figure out if there might have been DDO hiding under it, so I posted pictures on here to see if anyone would be able to help.

I actually haven't seen any of the videos that people post on youtube or other sites, where they find "super rare" coin.

I hate social media, hardly ever watch TV and still don't have a cellphone. I'd rather read and learn all that I can. (or play videogames haha) I'm 40 by the way and have been collecting coins off and on for over 30 years. That's why I still have arcade tokens.

I've been posting on here so often, to learn as much as I can about coins from some of you folks that have been here for a good while. I've also been reading through a lot of the different topics everyday, ever since I made my account.

Sorry about writing a short book. If you notice my other posts, I do tend to ramble on from time to time.
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08/18/2020 03:08 am
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 Posted 08/18/2020  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's all good Grelko. We hope you'll feel at home here in our Community. It's good to read the error reference web sites to see if your coins match or just to learnt errors should look like. Do you have some of the general coin guides, such as The Red Book to US coins, and The Cherry Picker's Guide(s)? Those will help you.

Just some friendly advice since you mentioned The Littleton Coin Company. They are a well known nationwide coin & stamp seller that is known for very average coins at extremely high prices. Do you have a local coin shop that you are friendly with and trust? Once you get a bit more knowledge under your belt, if you buy off of ebay, you can show us any coins you may be interested in for our advice. We are a friendly bunch here, and we'll help any way we can. Some of our members here that even specialize in error coins.

If you have any questions, we'll help you out. Learn what interests you most in error coins, and have fun!


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 Posted 08/18/2020  05:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with merclover. Also,a few too many photos. You said you checked varietyvista and coppercoins websites,don't forget to also check Wexlers' site.
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 Posted 08/18/2020  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While the '9' looks like it should be a DDO, it is misleading as there is a contact mark on the top of the '9' area. But here is a SBS of the DDO-001 with a normal coin:
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Note the size of your devices on your coin. They look more like the normal size. Note on the DDO (lower image) how much larger these devices are? That is because of the spread on the die between the hubs when the die was created. Note where the devices are wider? On the centers of the devices, where the spread is.
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 Posted 08/18/2020  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grelko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope I didn't sound rude in my reply earlier, I was up for almost 24 hours.


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Since I just got back into coin collecting, I haven't gotten a chance to buy any of the newer books yet. Actually, the only "coin book" I have, is the old 1992? blackbook price guide.

Sometimes I go to the one jewelry/collectable coin store the next town over to buy silver rounds. There's a couple other stores near me that buy and sell coins, but I haven't been to those yet.

I highly doubt I'd use ebay. I have more fun coin roll hunting.




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I don't know why I posted so many pictures, I guess I got excited for a minute there, when I saw the S mintmark.

If Wexler's site is doubleddie, I have it bookmarked but didn't go there much yet. (I always read that name as Doubl Eddie for some reason haha.)


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The main reason I put up the pictures, was because of the 9 and the S. The 9 looked like it has a crack running through the middle and I thought the S was a repunch. Except that, it didn't "completely" match up with any of the DDO that I saw, so I came to ask you guys.

I thought it might have been the 1971S-1MM-011 over at coppercoins and either the DDO-006 or 007 over at vatietyvista, but I couldn't tell since a lot of the lettering looks beat up.

I always felt it would be hard to miss a true DDO, since everything would look so much thicker or be very separated, like the original 1955 DDO. Then I came here and started learning about all of the different (barely noticeable) doubling on coins, like the single squeeze method.

I need to read more haha.
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 Posted 08/19/2020  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Or hang out here more. We all pass on information when we get a chance.
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