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osvar New Member Peru 2 Posts	Posted 08/30/2020 7:07 pm Hi all and swamperbob, i wonder if the coin listed is fake or original? https://www.ebay.com/itm/SCC-Mexico...AOSwtGRe2cQh What do you think. Regards. Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 08/31/2020 04:32 am to CCF. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
txabs Valued Member Spain 125 Posts	Posted 08/31/2020 04:45 am Hi osvar I would never spend 600€ on a coin which I can't authenticate by myself, based on the opinion of some random people in a forum which only has seen the coin on a photo. You can buy it on a place which at least, will guarantee authenticity and will manage a return if some time later there is any problem. Regards Report this Post to the Staff
ksammut Pillar of the Community United States 1003 Posts	Posted 08/31/2020 08:43 am I follow this seller on Instagram and there was a long debate over it's authenticity. However, he got it graded by PCGS and they confirmed that it is authentic. Now, I'm not sure why he took it out of the slab, but it is real. PCGS considered it a Shipwreck example. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 09/04/2020 10:16 am Genuine wreck piece. The toning (that specific slate grey which I've always assumed to be artificial) is VERY typical for the Reijgersdaal shipwreck. Report this Post to the Staff
DirtyHarry Valued Member Germany 141 Posts	Posted 09/05/2020 01:31 am Hi osvar! Fake or original? The coin looks %100 authentic to me in the high resolution pictures. The weight is also correct. Does it come from a shipwreck? The corrosion does look consistent with many shipwreck samples. But I wouldn't venture to claim anything further than that just by looking at pictures... only that it's a really beautiful pillar dollar coin. I'll make no comments on the price though Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 09/05/2020 2:24 pm Regardless of the authenticity, the price is way, way too high. Shipwreck coins without a certificate of authenticity are an issue. You may believe it's from the Reijgersdaal but can you convince the person you will sell it to of the same thing? Edited by jgenn 09/05/2020 2:26 pm Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 09/08/2020 8:25 pm osvar I agree with almost all of the thoughts expressed here. The coin may be authentic, but you must be aware of the fact that PCGS does not actually authenticate foreign coins. They grade accurately but they rely on the submitter for the guarantee of authenticity. That said, from my experience with 8Rs it looks like examples that come from the Reijgersdaal wreck - but that is also no guarantee. It is not something I would buy at the offering price. Report this Post to the Staff
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