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Other Exonimia Help - 1893 Columbian Exposition

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I'm a huge collector of anything that has to do with the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition / Chicago World's Fair and I have these items that I've been trying to identify what they are. They are round thick metal disc shaped items with images that are on some of the medals that were produced. I have no idea on exactly what they are. There's a metal plate that was with them that seems to have an impression from the discs I have as well as others. Plus I have a heavy paper that's about the thickness of business cards that has 2 of the images from the discs embossed on it. I'm not sure if these are some kind of dies, printers plates or embosser discs or what they could be. If they're from an embosser, I would love to figure out what type and see if I can locate one to have along with the discs. The round discs are about 25.6mm in diameter and 6.6mm thick. Please let me know what you think they could be. Hopefully this is the forum for this request since I really don't know what they are.
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 Posted 08/31/2020  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting.
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They look like dies of some sort, with the mirror images on them.Looks like they were used to print some kind of paper/cardboard items?
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 Posted 08/31/2020  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look like printing stamps or press dies.
Maybe used for envelopes, pamphlets or cards.
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Thanks for the replies and help. If anyone else reads this and happens to know what tool or device these would have gone into to make the impressions, I would really love to know so I can try to find one of those too. I've tried searching for embossers a while back and had no luck finding anything they might have fit in. If there's some other term or tool to try searching for, please let me know. I have no idea what to call these things other than discs or dies and "embosser" is the only thing that comes to mind to search for. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. I would love to have the tool that would have been used in and possibly be able to make these impressions myself.
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You could make a very simple press without harming these dies.
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I don't think you have to look for any type of apparatus for these.
I think you'll find they were attached to a small wooden handle similar to what a post office would use in this time period essentially a hand stamp.
Wood blocks as shown below are more in line to what a printer would use In this time period.
Perhaps they popped them off the handles to use the handles for the next ones.
This is just my opinion.

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No handles the are printers cuts used in letter presses Reason for the wood was to cut down on costs. Here some I saved from the lead pot from becoming sinker 50 plus years ago when I helped in a neighborhood print shop
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These were from the war years, war bonds,and holidays with pics of some of the images.
They look like embossing dies like the kind used for Notary public ones that fit into a hand press like a large pair of pliers. Here is google images of all kind along with some that would be age appropriate for your dies https://www.google.com/search?sourc...QsAR6BAgDEAE
If you live near a hobby lobby that had a large papercraft dept, Micheal's had a smaller one embossing is a popular part of the scrapbooking hobby.

After ruminating about them They could have been used to emboss guest certificates for important people might googlr paper ephemera from the fair .
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Thanks Circus, I never thought about checking at a hobby lobby or michaels store to see what they might have. I've searched and searched for vintage embossers online and never could find one that took small dies/inserts like I have. These are just about 1" in diameter and everything I find looks like they are for much larger embossing designs/seals. I just thought it would be really cool if I could find an antique embosser/tool that these would have been used in so that I could display them in a way that shows how they were used. Funny you mentioned a press like a large pair of pliers because that's sort of what my thoughts were too, but I couldn't find anything that looked right. I even looked into tools for leather work and nothing associated with that looked right either.

I have a huge collection of Columbian Expo items of all types and nothing I have in my collection nor anything I've seen has had any of these impressions/embossings on them other than the card and piece of brass that came with them. They are really cool items for my collection, but they just have me stumped on exactly what they were used for and why I have never ran across anything else with the design imprinted or embossed on it. I do have several paper items in my collection that were letters and invitations to different commissioners and board members from up to 2 years before and throughout the expo and they don't have any embossing like this either. They just have me really stumped and thought I might get some ideas to work with from folks here. Thanks for the suggestions and if anyone else has any info that might help, please let me know!
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We have an old fashion stationary store near where I live and they make rubber stamps to order. I am sure they could put appropriate wooden handles on the backs ends and an ink pad could produce images very easily. Perhaps there is one near you?
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