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My 2 Embarrassing 1858 Cents - Die Id's Please

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 Posted 09/04/2020  10:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I never could see paying so much and coming home with 1 cent, so I only came up with these 2 over all my years. One was in a junk lot (the scraped one). I'd appreciate the die pairs for these. I'll have some 1859 9/8's to check in another post.

First one has a blank area on the reverse. There are die cracks at leaves 11 and 15, which must be tied in with the blank part.
The obverse has die cracks at the C of VIC and the R of REG. The C of CAN is double-cut, and the D is deformed at the bottom.
5 errors all together in photo 3; DP-C in CAN, faint die crack from point of bust and through the beads to V I and C, a thick crack in the C, plugged die T, and a peeling lamination.


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My other loser coin has decent details but has been badly scraped. There are die cracks at leaves 5-7-10-15.
On the obverse, there's a die crack beside the V, and another on the second A of GRATIA. There's also a faint die crack that starts at the R of GRATIA and runs down to the N in CANADA, that looks to be the result of die clash-there are impressed grooves on the obverse and raised ridges on the reverse.


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 Posted 09/05/2020  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what I come up with Terry T.

The first one I think is RC-14 x OF1. 2% used on Reverse + 16.67% on Obverse 1858 coins.

The second one I think is a RB-16 x OB4. 2% o used on Reverse + 5.33% on Obverse 1858 coins.
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 Posted 09/05/2020  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct, Jim.
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 Posted 09/08/2020  01:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TerryT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the ID's. Is the blank area common, and can someone post a photo of a higher grade ?
The second one, at 2% and 5%, must be pretty rare. Too bad about the damage, but okay for $1-3.
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