Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

OK To Use Mineral Oil As A Protective Coating?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 12,617Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
chuckster 125's Avatar
United States
4113 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  08:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I presently do not do anything to my coins as far as putting anything on them for preservation.

Is it recommended to use a thin coat of mineral oil and then re-store, or leave them alone?

Pillar of the Community
manila galleon trade's Avatar
Spain
1361 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add manila galleon trade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
leave the coins alone
Valued Member
FreezerBurn's Avatar
United States
135 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FreezerBurn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
leave them alone
Moderator
Learn More...
Sap's Avatar
Australia
16826 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was considered normal many decades ago to give coins a protective layer of oil. It worked surprisingly well, and many of the stunning coins of today only look like they do because they were well-preserved in oil. But this practice is frowned on today, for two reasons:

- Who knows what's in the oil - there might be compounds in there that do more harm than good to a coin. Certainly oil does little or nothing to preserve lustre, and may even hasten it's disappearance.

- Modern coin storage methods appear to do a much better job at protecting coins than the old-fashioned oil layer method.

Of course, it's always possible that people in several hundred years time will be cursing our generation for using coin storage and preservation methods which will do more long-term harm than good, too, just as we tut-tut previous generations that used oil or PVC plastic.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From all I've read, pure petrolatum-based mineral oil is non-reactive with metal and commonly used in industry to protect metal tools/parts from corrosion. I soak coins in mineral oil to loosen excess crud, but I don't use it for long-term storage. That said, I'm not too concerned if a trace of oil is left on my older coins when stored, because it can only isolate the coins from air exposure. My only concern would be if the oil broke down over time and gummed up a coin, but I have not read anywhere that petrolatum does that--in contrast to organic oils. Just my opinion based on what I've read.
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could maybe see doing it with old copper that has had previous corrosion issues as a way to keep the corrosion in check. Oiling or laquering copper used to be common preservation practices- remember that large cents and Half Cents were pure copper, not an alloy. However, I do not see a purpose in doing that to coins of other compositions or even copper coins with relatively pristine surfaces.
Pillar of the Community
chuckster 125's Avatar
United States
4113 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What KurtS said in his post:

Thats what I'm trying to see if its ok to do.- " a trace of mineral oil"-
Dab the coin with the mineral oil, then gently cotton swab it completely dry or at least try to get it as dry as possible, then store the coin.

I would think that there would still be some residual oil left on the coin and that would preserve it?

Edited by chuckster 125
11/26/2008 11:03 am
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Biokemist, yes--my largest collection is bronze/copper coins from the 19th-20th C so that's what I'm thinking about here.
As any corrosion tends to draw in moisture, a surface trace of oil might impede that process.
Of course, the best protection for any copper coins is storing them well in the first place.
I don't do this for MS or otherwise "pristine" copper coins, but otherwise I'm satisfied that pure mineral oil* won't harm my coins.
But--every collector should check this for themselves.

*I have used "food grade pure petrolatum mineral oil"
Pillar of the Community
chuckster 125's Avatar
United States
4113 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chuckster 125 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies!
Pillar of the Community
MorganNoob's Avatar
United States
533 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganNoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How would you ever get the oil off in the even that you wanted to completely remove it? would the solvent that you would have to use damage the coin? You could end up with a perfectly preserved oily coin, that wouls forever be coated in oil...
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
--this oil is removed without any problems with either acetone or denatured alcohol.
Bedrock of the Community
BadThad's Avatar
United States
19948 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
--this oil is removed without any problems with either acetone or denatured alcohol.


Those solvent won't do a good job at removal of oil, they are too polar in nature. A much, much better choice would be xylene or toluene, both are miscible with oil.

On the subject of coating coins with oil. I would never take that approach since today we have things like airtites and Intercept Shields.
Lincoln Cent Lover!
VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR
https://verdi.care/
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/26/2008  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BadThad--thanks for the right info, I appreciate it!

Quote:
I would never take that approach since today we have things like airtites and Intercept Shields.
All my better coins are in airtites. While I don't use mineral oil as a protectant, I don't think a trace will hurt my coins.
Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts
 Posted 11/27/2008  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The best thing to do is use a very high grade of rear axel grease. Not the white stuff, but that nice, black, thick stuff also used to grease most cars front ends. I would guarantee those coins will still look the same in a few hundred years too. Other such great methods of preservation are liquid plastic.
For real though remember that any substance that has a sticky or slimy residue will attract dust and dirt. This means such items placed on a coin will eventually make the thing a really big mess. Of course if placed in an air tight container after treating with any oils, not much dirt will get to the coins. Of coures if the coins are placed in such containers, no oils would have been required.
Pillar of the Community
KurtS's Avatar
United States
5318 Posts
 Posted 11/27/2008  01:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just carl,
I think I'll just drive down to La Brea tar pits and store my coins there in that hydrocarbon goo. Ultimately, it may be a better place to keep my coins for the far distant future to uncover, study and appreciate. It may be better than my coins someday finding their way back to a shop?
Valued Member
Singapore
104 Posts
 Posted 11/27/2008  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add haidee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^ I think i'd rather see my coins age, with grace :)
  Previous TopicReplies: 15 / Views: 12,617Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.38 seconds to rattle this change. Forums