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1908-S/S Indian Cent

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Here is a 1908 S/S RPM, I purchased at the club auction. It is not listed in the 4th ed. of the CPG, but in F.IND.ERS by Steve and Flynn as they show RPM #1 which is close, but not in exact same position. Actually this RPM seems to have a better spread. How is that for favoritism?


Anyone know the RPM# ?

Thanks for looking,

Jim


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I have to admit, the 1908 IHC rpms confuse me...it's like uncharted territory.
It doesn't help that Snow lists one rpm photo in his book, and another on his site (and calls the book's image "wrong") Reportedly, there are two RPMs for 1908 out of 5 total reverse dies.
I hope I'm totally wrong here, but your S looks a bit like MD. You might check for similar ghosting to the W of the nearby bow end.
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"wrong"? Whatchoo mean by "wrong" ?
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xshift, lol...I have no clue about the "wrong" comment either.
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Thanks Kurt for Looking, I felt that way looking at the photo in FINDERS, but figured they had checked for MD. Here is another angle, I rotate so the light came directly from the bottom. I looked for any other distinctive doubling on the devices, but didn't see any. At first I thought the "S" was abnormally shaped, but it looks like the mm in the photos...so another to put in the CSI album

Jim
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Thanks for the second pic, that helps me take a closer look.
I agree there's something interesting about the mintmark, but on that note I'm hardly experienced with these...I don't have any for IHCs. Still, there's something else that suggests MD, but I'm unsure here...maybe Coppercoins could give his input?

Out of curiosity, I took that photo and tried to resolve some other signs of MD in the devices. I found some ghosting off the ribbon in the same general direction. Take it with a "grain of salt".

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Kurt, I did notice that , but thought that the direction was wrong ( if there is such a relationship),
and when I focused up and down, it wasn't level like the MM. I have no problems if it proves
not to be....I just like the excitement of the possibility .
Tomorrow if I get a chance I will put it under the scope for a long careful look with a different
light source. Too much ado around here tonight! happy thanksgiving!

Jim
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Jim, yes...MD isn't something I see a lot on IHCs, it seems it was more common on FEs.
Since this is basically in the time frame of the Lincoln cents, I'll wait for their input.
Thanks and have a great Thanksgiving!
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It's definitely Machine Doubling.
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I agree. MD for sure!
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Hope all had a nice Thanksgiving. Thanks to all for the comments. It does look
like MD with the flattened undelying "mm", but I spent a long time with the
30X stereo scope looking for any surrounding area also flattened,, but no other flattened edge.I did find some "slope" on the edge of the ribbon ( where Kurt drew his arrow)but attributed that to die wear as it isn't flat, but no other flattened edge.


Can it be MD if there is no other adjacent flattened area?

Thanks
Jim
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