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1930-D LWC Off Center Uncirculated

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Got this beauty off ebay for $29.20 all said and done. I was the only bidder and was so happy to get it. I think I got it without any competition because it was named "freak penny". Should be a nice addition to my collection. Doesn't look cleaned or anything, looks quite nice. I added a couple extra pictures just to give an idea of luster and detail. Any ideas on percentage off center? 10-15 maybe? Here's a link to the original listing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254715518159

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 Posted 09/25/2020  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great buy at this price!
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Thank you Coinfrog! One of my best purchases yet.
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Nice cool coin.
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 Posted 09/25/2020  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice looking piece. Good images too. :)
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 Posted 09/25/2020  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both! Still trying to get better with my pictures.
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 Posted 09/26/2020  12:11 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw that one and was scared off by a few red flags. This is the only item listed or recently sold by this seller right now (although 100% positive feedbacks on 1000 items sold). The toning looked too much like an "aged" counterfeit. The seller didn't list an obvious off center, or possibly broadstruck cent in any normal manner. "Freaky penny" allows for deniability if accused of selling a counterfeit. The extensive cleaning on the reverse didn't match what appears to be an untouched obverse.

Anyway, looks pretty good in your photos, but just wasn't sure of authenticity so gave it a pass.
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 Posted 09/26/2020  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pickup! I agree the reverse doesn't look as lustrous as the obverse...maybe an old cleaning? Regardless that's a very nice 90 year old error coin!

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 Posted 09/26/2020  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
tropicalbats, from my photos and your current knowledge would you say it's counterfeit and or cleaned?
Coinhunter27 thanks for the response! I appreciate the observations.
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 Posted 09/26/2020  01:03 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From your photos, I'd say it had an old fairly extensive cleaning on the reverse. Note that the open areas are much brighter on the reverse, while hard to clean areas around the devices are still dark. Your photos may also show some scratch marks to the right of the T in CENT and below the CA of AMERICA but that can't be honestly judged from a photo. But my opinion is that it had been cleaned at some point.

At this point I'd say it's genuine. I looked hard at your photos as they are far better than the seller photos. I don't see anything that would define it as a fake, and several areas that point to genuine. It would be really hard to make a fake that good, and if so, likely there would be more than one of them floating around and my search didn't turn up any known. There are a number of fake 1951-D and 1909 off center fakes, and they are pretty bad ones at that, but nothing remotely like this one.

So I'd call it genuine with an old cleaning that is actually attractive with some eye appeal and not a problem. Happy for you to pick it up and at a great price.
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 Posted 09/26/2020  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuarterHoarder72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks TB! I appreciate your input.
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Interesting cool coin. tropicalbats has me wondering though. I want it to be real for you! Are you considering having it slabbed?
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 Posted 09/26/2020  01:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SensibleSal66 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, Very Nice Oldie ! Percentage is about right . Anyone hear of the KOLIT Position Guide.
It tells you tell the FRACTION THAT THE COIN IS OFF .
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The weight might help answer the real or counterfeit question. Most counterfeit coins seem to be on the heavy side.
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merclover, I thought about sending it to a Grading service, but if I do it won't be for a little while. If genuine, I think the coin is good enough for at least an ANACS slab.
SensibleSal66, I haven't heard of that before. Sounds interesting.
Yokozuna, the weight of the coin is 3.0-3.1. Genuine?
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Super cool!

@QH72,

If you do decide to slab it let me know. I'd advise against ANACS in this case only because you can get it in an NGC Holder (which is nicer) for the exact same price. If you don't have an NGC account I'll let you put it in under mine.
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