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 How much is this worth and what errors occurred? It was in a fake leather pouch so it had a lot of pvc damage. I had to clean it a bit to remove the pvc.
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Bedrock of the Community
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We cannot see your images well enough to help answer your questions. Any chance of larger sharp photos? thanks   to the CCF! 
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Pillar of the Community
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 to the CCF! I have some questions about this coin, but need better images to help clear things up. Please post individual images, not a collage. The better the images the more that can be identified. 
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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These shots are better. The overall appearance of the coin indicates this is a vise soft die job. There seems to be too much flattening of all of the devices. If it were a nickel struck over a cent, you would expect the image of Jefferson and the Monticello to be higher relief with less damage. Also the alignment of the nickel's obverse to reverse isn't correct. I think looks to be a Lincoln Cent that was pressed between two different Jefferson nickels soft dies in an attempt to mimic an error coin. @spruett001 I have no idea why I didn't say that it looked like soft dies. I thought it, but just went with the vise idea. My mistake! 
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
Edited by Yokozuna 10/09/2020 06:42 am
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New Member
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I thought about a vise job but the Jefferson head and Monticello are not indentations. It must have been struck by a die or put into a vise with a die.
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New Member
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Oh and I forgot to include this is from my great grandfathers collection. He collected from 1950-1991.
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New Member
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I was trying to see, in photo # one, and # two, a reversing of the the letters, related to the Jefferson image. vise jobs, will show the letters going backwards, it"s hard to tell, from what I can see....
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Bedrock of the Community
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I have studied these new photos and have to conclude it looks like a vise job. Now you said yourself "welding" with pvc was involved, and perhaps a nickel stuck on a cent, and somehow pressure was involved resulting in your Frankenstein coin? Who knows.  Bottom line, I cannot see how this was a mint error by any stretch of my imagination. The cleaning you did to remove the pvc may have damaged the coin as well. If you are convinced it was a mint error, you could send it into PCGS to be documented for at least your own peace of mind. Good luck! 
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Bedrock of the Community
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The images of Jefferson and Monticello are correctly oriented (not reversed) and it looks like maybe a 194x nickel was used for the obverse, but I don't see a large mm over Monticello, so a different coin may have been used for the reverse image. Perhaps soft dies were made and used to strike over a Wheatie?
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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I've modified my original post above. I don't know why I didn't say soft die to begin with because it was obvious that the obverse of the nickel isn't backwards. I guess I just totally lost my train of thought on this one when I first posted. 
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
Edited by Yokozuna 10/09/2020 07:10 am
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New Member
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Yeah I'm gonna go with a soft die
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Bedrock of the Community
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Much larger pics, please.  to the CCF!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Do we have the weight and diameter?
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New Member
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It weights 3.1 grams but I'm not home to measure diameter
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Mike Diamond needs to take a peek at this one. I feel this is the victim of a soft die due to the fact that the images of the the obverse and reverse of the Jefferson aspect on the coin do not match up as it would on a normal coin.
Edited by Jim0815 10/09/2020 11:00 am
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