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Does Anyone Here Know Anything About This 1635 Silver French Jeton?

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 Posted 10/09/2020  1:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add casualcoincollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I acquired this French Jeton recently and some of the legend doesn't translate when plugged into a translator and I have found several different interpretations/translations to English for this piece. Does anyone here actually know what the legends on this piece mean in English? Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also if anyone here knows any history on this piece I would be very interested in that as well. Thanks.
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It is a Surgeon's token from Paris.
The obverse is "ne pars sincera trahatur"

I think they are bleeding them.

The reverse shows a flame being extinguished in water.
The legend is in latin and read "She is barely(hardly?) extinguished"



Page 89: of this book describes it, or one very similar, in detail.
https://books.google.com/books?id=l...1635&f=false
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Yes, a surgeons' and barbers' token, the use of which is unclear. Latin inscriptions sometimes need a bit of deciphering, and in this case they should be put in the context of those 17th century surgeons and barbers. There are people here with much better Latin knowledge than me, but I nevertheless dare make an attempt at interpretation (happy to be corrected!).

The phrase ne pars sincera trahatur should be read ... that the good part not get [affected by the bad], meaning in this context that it may be necessary to amputate a bad part (like an arm affected by gangrene) to save the good part (the rest of the arm). The phrase might be from a sentence in Ovid's Metamorphoses - most likely known by the relatively well educated surgeons and barbers of the time - which in translation from Latin reads (and with the phrase in italic, here more freely translated): "All options must be tried, but ultimately the part of the body which does not admit of healing must be cut off, lest the good part be lost."

The phrase vix nata extinguitur can be read extinguished when barely born and thus symbolises the positive effects of early treatment of illness and injuries.
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@Gincoin43 and erafjel,

Thanks for the information!
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