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Inherited A Lot Of Old Coins

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 Posted 12/04/2008  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The close-up photo of the '23-S is nice; certainly good enough to appreciate the details. Unfortunately, that "missing" part of Liberty's head is almost certainly the result of post-mint damage, not a mint error. It is severe enough to reduce the coin's value but I expect it will still do well enough for this circulated set.

The missing dates are readily available in lower circulated grades. It will cost a few bucks, but you should be able to find examples that fit in well with the set. Good luck!

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 Posted 12/04/2008  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny thing. My Grandpa had these put in individual crappy cardboard holders marked with the date & mint mark. I kid you not, EVERY mint mark was marked wrong. It go to the point that whenever I saw a 'D', I put it in the 'S' pile. Not that I blame him, he was 95 when he passed & I had to scan some & enlarge them to see them at 38 years old. Those things are SMALL
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I had to scan some & enlarge them to see them at 38 years old.


This is why I need a loop.
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OK, you said you didn't mind pictures. I'm still trying to get an idea of getting grades down. I found this 1875S Twenty Cent Piece in an album w/ some quarters. I hadn't seen a Twenty before so I was pretty happy. Reading the Sheldon Scale info, I'm thinking that this coin is in VG, but not positive how much the dirt should deduct. Any opinions on how far off I am? I'm going off of this:

VG-8 (Very Good) - Full rim with clearly discernable devices and features. Most legends are readable clearly, but the whole coin is still significantly worn.

Thanks

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I agree with the grade in that I would expect to pay VG money for it. The drawbacks are the apparent scratches on the obverse (old cleaning?). The splotchy toning is not a major issue for me so long as there is no surface damage. I'm not an expert on the series so someone else might be more specific as to whether your coin has any anomalies that affect the value. Yours does appear to have a clear "S" mint mark, which carries a slight premium in some price guides.
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 Posted 12/05/2008  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" & " Twenty Cents" looks like it's struck quite a bit weaker than the rest of the stamp. I've never seen one other than this one, so I don't know if it's normal or not

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This is a neat thread! Bout all I can do is offer to make the popcorn.
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The grading book I have (and the CCF reference at http://www.coincommunity.com/coin_f...enty_cents/) state: "VG8 Very Good - One or two letters in LIBERTY may show. Other details will be bold." To me that would be the only thing that could keep it from being VG. Great coin.

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I found one on ebay that was marked VF & "Cleaned". Doesn't cleaning them drop their grade?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1875s-twenty-ce...86.m20.l1116
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I found one on ebay that was marked VF & "Cleaned". Doesn't cleaning them drop their grade?


Yes. You'll note that the slab says "VF Details, Net F12." IMO the "VF Details" is a little enthusiastic on ANACS' part, but it's a matter of opinion.

That auction coin is way overpriced. $200 should probably buy that coin in XF or "AU Details."
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Yeah, I knew that the price (as about 75% of what I've seen on ebay) was ridiculous. Thanks for clarifying that grade for me. From the looks of that one, the light stamping on "United States" & " Twenty Cents" seems to be the norm
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From the looks of that one, the light stamping on "United States" & " Twenty Cents" seems to be the norm


It's tough to say, given the rather poor quality of the photos. I'm not really advanced with that series, but the ones I've seen made me think that the relief on the lettering wasn't comparatively as deep as some other issues. For me, the detail just doesn't reach VF - for instance, "LIBERTY" should be full and readable.
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 Posted 12/07/2008  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrRick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you say "LIBERTY", are you talking about the Seated Liberty? I don't see any place where it has the word Liberty on it
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When you say "LIBERTY", are you talking about the Seated Liberty? I don't see any place where it has the word Liberty on it


Heh. That's the point.

LIBERTY appears on the shield, extending diagonally down from the hand, towards 5:00. Or, it should, but not on this coin.
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the ones I've seen made me think that the relief on the lettering wasn't comparatively as deep as some other issues


Exactly--because on the 20 cent pieces the lettering was not incuse (cut into the shield), so it could not be called 'deep'. This caused the lettering to basically be up at the highest point on the coin and subject to the most wear.
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