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Pillar of the Community
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There's something interesting about this pair of coins... let's see if you can figure it out. Which coin would you rather have?   |
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Pillar of the Community
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I like the first better. Don't like the second one's cheek smudge. They share the same clash mark on the reverse. So they are from the same dies. (At least the reverses are)
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I prefer the one on the bottom.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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They appear to be the same coin with the second set of images photo-shopped.The rim is relatively untouched and makes it very apparent.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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wow...that was a detailed observation...
after looking closely for a little while - I can see what your are posting...they really are the same coin imaages...
impressive observation...
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Pillar of the Community
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They appear to be the same coin with the second set of images photo-shopped.The rim is relatively untouched and makes it very apparent I'm honestly impressed somebody noticed so quick, great eye Dave. The whole reason behind this thread is I had seen recently a few examples of people removing individual scratches or abrasions from photos to try to make a coin look nicer than it actually is. They're doing it to try to make a profit. I wanted to see how far it could be taken. The coin from the source image is a PCGS MS-63, a nice baggy coin. I wanted people to notice which is why I put both the source image and altered image next to each other. My whole idea is to put out there the concept that people can and will edit photos maliciously. Now my question to you Dave, would you have noticed if I hadn't put the source image? The answer is likely no. Hence the problem, in the future and present how can we collectively learn to spot altered photos? In my example I purposefully took it to an extreme, but what if I had simply removed an abrasion or two? Likely nobody would be the wiser. Overall, not a great concept to think about. |
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Pillar of the Community
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There's virtually no way to tell whether a coin image has been photoshopped to remove blemishes or scratches. Just like using lighting angles to completely hide surface hairlines and scratches, there are limits to what you can tell from a coin photo as opposed to examining it in hand. I think the best you can do is only buy from trustworthy sellers and always have a return option. Or I suppose you could ask for a raw image file to guarantee there have been no alterations, but it's unlikely many people could provide that.
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Pillar of the Community
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HA HA. I can't believe I missed that. I was technically correct in saying that the coins were struck from the same dies, but I missed the point. As far as your original question, in this situation I feel that the enhancement made by masking the marks is outweighed by the overall lack of appeal that it created. As far as your later post, if one buys a coin and discovers that it was enhanced for the photo, the need only to return it. Not a huge deal. especially, if they purchased on ebay. Open an "item not as described" case and done. I therefore don't see this as a major concern for the hobby. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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With hindsight, it's easy to see they're the same. Good fun, point well taken.
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Very good post! With all the technology available it's easy to modify any image. Thank god for return policies!
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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by Nells250
11/25/2020 8:34 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Miss Williams does appear to have a rather thick application of zit cream in the modified pic.  |
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Rest in Peace
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Honestly Grape at first I thought you were looking for a VAM-1F and was looking to choose one over the other until I noticed the hit on both examples under the first left star. BigSilver did hit on the result noting the smudge on the cheek.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Which is why I never buy a coin from an on line source.
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Pillar of the Community
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BigSilver did hit on the result noting the smudge on the cheek. If I had actually spent any amount of time on it I could have made it look 100% natural, I left the smudge on purpose. Quote:
Which is why I never buy a coin from an on line source. I'll buy as long as there's a return |
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looks to be the same coin. I like the originality in the top
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Posted 11/25/2020 2:31 pm
