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I found I had a book about the NZ tokens and can tell you guys that they were
1. All minted between 1856 and 1882
2. Were legal tender for small amounts until March 25 1897 (Not 1883 as I stated - sorry).
3. All of them, except some 1880s ones like Numis Robs music store one were minted in the UK, some at Heaton and others at various Private mints in England, the 1880s ones were minted in Melbourne - NONE were minted here.
No 1860s or 1850s coins for me sorry!
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Maybe I can just add this New South Wales stamp.  Steve :) |
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Beautiful Steve and inventive, all I have from the 1860s are some tatty Full Face Queens of uncertain date (Could be 1870s). Those tokens I showed yesterday were all sold, but now my Aussie Florin thing is nearly complete, I may collect those next!
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Thanks Tane, I needed to find something to post.
I was going through withdrawels.
Steve :)
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I haven't got any coins or tokens from the 1840s, but I do have something philatelic - though with a numismatic connection, as it's a pre-stamp envelope sent from a bank in Australia to a branch in New Zealand! It was sent from Sydney on July 9, 1845 and reached Wellington on July 30:   My great-grandfather, James Swinbourn D'Emden, was born in Tasmania in 1852 and worked with the Union Bank of Australia, moving to NZ when he was in his thirties. I suspect that at some time in his career he was clearing out some old correspondence and came across this envelope and gave it to his son-in-law, my grandfather, who was a keen philatelist! This other cover was also passed down from my great-grandfather. It has a sad story. The Scottish-built SS Wairarapa was sailing between Sydney and Auckland when she sank off Great Barrier Island on October 29, 1894 with the loss of about 130 passengers and crew. Some of the mail bags the ship was carrying were salvaged and the letters were dried out and forwarded to their destinations. This one was posted in Melbourne on October 20 and received in Auckland on November 10 and in Wellington three days later. The stamp was naturally soaked off while the mail bag was underwater!   Wikipedia article on the SS Wairarapa here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Wairarapa |
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Tane, that is a beautiful piece of history.
Thanks for sharing.
Steve :)
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Fascinating!  |
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NumisRob amazing pieces of postal history (They are not mine Steve, things I dream of).
The cover from 1845 - wow!
And you know the 1894 shipwreck of the Wairarapa led to the establishment of the Pigeon Post that ran for about 20 years.
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Ooops, sorry Tane.
Yes, nice pieces of history NumisRob.
Steve :)
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:S sadly only had a Professor Holloway Token in this early era but since Princetane consider it a exclusion I wont repost it here. I know that foreign currency was exchanged into British currency and that what was used for everyday trade. I could imagine trying to ship large british pennies to the colonies hahaha how painfully it would have been, that probably why token were used instead some of the early token are quite chucky.
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03/29/2021 8:21 pm
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No Ryurazu, I considered it an exception, because even though Professor Holloways are British, they were widely used here and considered part of the Australian/NZ Token series.
How come we never saw Australian tokens here?
Next month, we should have a show anything else you missed out first time around!
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I considered it an exception, because even though Professor Holloways are British, they were widely used here and considered part of the Australian/NZ Token series. Interesting anecdote with PH tokens that our NZ friends may not know,Divers in the late 1950/60's recovered thousands of them from the wreck of the Dunbar off Sydney Heads. The Coin/Stamp Dealer I worked for(after School,I'm not that old,LOL) at Crows Nest,Sydney purchased a couple of Buckets full of them from a Diver that came into the store,paid only A £2 (5?) for the buckets and IIRC sold them for around a shilling each so there are plenty out there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar_(ship)Edited by Basil
03/30/2021 06:13 am
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on the site of the Dunbar
"the use of explosives known from the earlier period of this activity" from the Wikipedia page
bahahha
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Entirely true Basil, the Professor Holloway tokens are amongst the most common you can find here.
Some must have survived that shipwreck (Thanks for that info, I never knew that). The Bertrand catalogue 2018 lists Holloway ½d dated 1857/58 at $12 for CG, $25 for fine and $60 for VF and the 1d dated the same years at $15 for VG and the same prices for Fine and VF. This compares with our most common tokens, Kirkcaldie and Sains (Wellington store) and Advance New Zealand (Milner and Thompson tea warehouse).
Ryurazu - Lets see those Holloways!
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the establishment of the Pigeon Post that ran for about 20 years  Please, explain. |
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