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What Is O-Polyphenol(Opp)?

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 Posted 12/11/2020  8:12 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Collector28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've been browsing for another banknote folder recently, and have seen a fair number with the pages being made of this. What is it, and is it harmful?

Many thanks :)
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 Posted 12/12/2020  12:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiscrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you want to post a link to what you are talking about, that might help.

I am betting that if you have seen the letters "OPP," it is referring to a type of polypropylene (oriented polypropylene) where the manufacturing process roughly aligns the polymer chains to impart different mechanical properties.

If you aren't already aware, polypropylene is a commodity plastic/polymer much like polyethylene. It is generally recognized as being both cheap and inert, and consequently used all over the place, including food containers. It might even be that your current banknotes are made of the BOPP (biaxially oriented) form.

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@Numiscrat

It's here - https://www.amazon.com/Librao-Pocke.../B078N4T854/

The link seems to truncate and be unworkable for some reason, so you may have to quote my reply and use the extended link in there.

In the product description it says "Material: Leather case + OPP(O-phenylphenol)"

I was wondering if any people here could help me understand this :)
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 Posted 12/12/2020  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiscrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Collector28,

I think I found the product, or something very similar. After studying the product description, I can tell you what your problem is:

You just can't understand incorrect and poorly translated polymer chemistry nomenclature hybridized with sales gibberish! Geez!

Of course, I am a chemist, and it hardly made a lick of sense to me, too!

I wish more people would read, question, and research descriptions that don't make sense, as you did. It would make some sellers clean up their act.

All I can figure is that the seller typed something like "opp" and "chemical" into a search engine and got o-phenylphenol (or similar equivalent names) in the results ahead of the common plastic/polymer that they were looking for. I tried it, and got that result sometimes. They then ran with that, even if it didn't make any sense. If I saw the same description you did, they also mention their product is "without softener," which must mean "free of plasticizer." After seeing that, I question the accuracy of everything else in the description.

It just about has to be oriented polypropylene, or maybe a cheaper, nonoriented garden variety polypropylene. If I am wrong and it isn't that, I would question the product's safety, too.

BTW: PVC was in the description of the pages. Some of us coin people go ! Maybe that is okay for banknotes?
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PVC most definitely isn't okay for banknotes, certainly not long term anyway

Oriented polypropylene (I think) would be fine for storage, but in honesty given all the gibberish I'm not entirely sure I'd trust that it was. It made absolutely no sense to me and I decided to throw it over to people here too - I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it was very confusing!

The search for a folder goes on - I've still got an Amazon voucher to use. Trouble is I can't seem to find anything on Amazon that is definitely safe, have you (or anyone) got any recommendations?

Thanks very much for helping
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12/13/2020 08:23 am
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 Posted 12/13/2020  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiscrat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You are most welcome.

Considering that I pickup coins from the UK now and then, I may be picking your brain one of these days!
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You're very welcome to any knowledge I possess on things UK-related. Out of interest, is there a specific UK era you collect from?
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I haven't gotten much beyond early twentieth century, yet. My ultimate ambition is to go back to at least the 17th century, but I haven't decided how that is going to look.

I enjoy history, and for me, as an American, coins are the most tangible link to our past. We don't see (or feel crushed by the weight of it, as a French friend tells me) the physical relics you do everyday. Because of the events in the last 250 years or so of French history, I am collecting representative examples of all the French governments over that time period. My home state was a part of Nouvelle-France for about as long as the US has existed, and French influences persisted in American history, hence my interest there.

But the British history that parallels US history does not have such radical gyrations and divisions. So do I: Collect by monarch? Time period/major events? Currency types that were used in colonial and early American trade? So many interesting possibilities! Your thoughts?
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 Posted 12/15/2020  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Collector28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I personally find it easier to stratify by monarch, or coin design (for instance I have a collection of pennies and half pennies from when they adopted the typical "pre-decimal" design that circulated until they were replaced by the New Pence). However, I do like the idea of tying to specific historical events - and if that's what floats your boat I'd love to see the collection posted, since I'm a great fan of historical links myself.
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