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Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 5:29 pm Here's a coin (Not mine yet!) that I need some help on.. ARADOS (Phoenicia) AE20, Astarte - Bull. Obverse: Heads of Astarte right; before, smaller head of Augustus right? Reverse: ΣNH (date). Bull left. Star above plus something else? I'm getting different hits on who the smaller portrait supposedly depicts...Augustus or Trajan? Any help/links would be much appreciated! Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 5:51 pm You probably spotted this one already, Paul, listed as Augustus. Same date below the bull as yours, but with the Phoenician letters (apparently that's what they are) above the bull obliterated. https://www.forumancientcoins.com/g...cat=0&pos=15 Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 5:56 pm Link doesn't seem to work Bob? Report this Post to the Staff
Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 6:01 pm Hmm. Any better luck with this? https://www.forumancientcoins.com/g...?pos=-136070 If not, just do a search in Forum's members' gallery section. Search terms: Arados bull Augustus Two coins will show. The first, the green one, is the linked coin. Edited by Kamnaskires 12/15/2020 6:07 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 6:11 pm Thanks Bob... Seems to be quite a rare coin?...Can't find many around? Find Astarte an interesting Goddess as did the Phoenicians. Report this Post to the Staff
Novicius Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1168 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 7:01 pm A really nice coin Paul, and very unusual. Well done. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34396 Posts	Posted 12/15/2020 8:45 pm Odd to have that mintmark from New Hampshire though. I didn't realize the Phoenicians travelled that far. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 12/16/2020 03:20 am Super coin! I love these more exotic provincial issues. Assuming that the date on here is the same calendar as the other Arados bronzes (going off the more common Zeus/prot types of ca. 150s BC) the calendar starts in about 260 BC. Your coin is dated 258, so 2 BC, right in the middle of Augustus' reign. Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5172 Posts	Posted 12/17/2020 10:08 am Yes, it converts to 2/1 BC. When I saw the "1 BC/1 AD" in the link I hoped it would be that, because I long hoped to inaugurate a "how far forward can we go" thread on this subforum that would start at 1 AD, but it required someone to post a 1 AD coin But nope, 2 BC is indeed correct. Augustus either way. (1st century AD dated and/or single-year types aren't actually that rare; we had a thread dedicated to those a few years back and managed to fill most of the century. It's further on that things get messy, with the 4th and especially 5th century very sparsely covered.) (...Actually, a dedicated "post your ancient dated and single-year coins" would probably work very well even without being limited to going forward by dates. Especially if there's also an occasionally updated count of what dates have already been found. We'd need a firm definition of the appropriate time range though... that or just make multiple threads for smaller time ranges. 500-1 BC, 1-500 AD, 501-1000 AD, 1001-1500 AD should work? Dunno what to do with 1501-1600 though.) (As a side note, I have several coins from Arados, but all of them are from the early period when the dates were written with that weird line-based system, and those thin lines don't preserve very well, so I'm not very confident of what the dates are.) (...Sorry for the wall of text, by the way.) Report this Post to the Staff
Palouche Pillar of the Community Spain 2752 Posts	Posted 12/19/2020 5:24 pm Thanks for the comments everyone!.. The coin is now mine!...I was initially drawn to the coins obverse, portraying the head of Astarte-Europa and it being more prominent than the reduced portrait size of the then Roman Emperor Augustus! Here's a couple of interesting links for those interested. https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/1/4483 https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.c...%83nh-2-aap/ Phoenicia, Arados 2 B.C RPC I 4483. Aradus mint, year 258 (local Era) = 2/1 BC. 8,9 g - 20mm Obverse: Bust of Astarte-Europa right with smaller head of Augustus in front. Reverse: Humped bull galloping left, head facing, Phoenician letters beth (B), taw (TH), zayin (Z) & aleph (´) above, Aradian era date 258 (ΣNH) below. RPC I 4483. Report this Post to the Staff
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