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Pillar of the Community
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Edited by shantiom
12/19/2020 02:09 am
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Not sure of the word reductions , but very nice Wheat cent and color . also has a die chip at bottom of S loop . MS-64RD/RB .  |
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Pillar of the Community
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What are you asking? Why this coin wont grade MS-70  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah, my title is wanting for clarity. I intended to say where does the coin have marks that reduce the score from 70 to whatever your assessment is for this coin, thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok. The first thing that jumps out at me is the gouge under the IC in America. Lots of hits on the lettering And Hits on the rim MS-65  |
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Moderator
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As you know I am not good at grading,that said MS63 tops and a mid die state. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I guess I'm just not seeing what other people are seeing that's holding this down so much? another 66+RD for me.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Light chatter on bust--hint of very light wear. Light obverse rim dings. The under IC gouge. Chin nick.
Nice coin. MS65+ for me.
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Pillar of the Community
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With the reverse gouge and obverse chatter on the cheek, chin, neck, lapel and shoulder I'm at MS64.
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Bedrock of the Community
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i count 20 marks, ticks, abrasions, discolorations, scratches and areas of the coin which would overall subtract from an MS70 coin. imo this is too many to push this coin above MS65 and more like MS64+   Edited by panzaldi
12/19/2020 11:05 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Nice wheat - marks have been pointed out already but not too bad - MS65RD
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Pillar of the Community
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the spotting, esp on reverse, means this will grade less than 68, so we're at 67, then subtract 2 due to the significant number of small hits, which puts it at MS65
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you everyone for the feedback, I'm learning a lot here. For future visitors to this post when it becomes aged, key learnings for noobs:
1. Deductions for spotting, result in a potential highest grade of MS 67.
2. Strike chatter on Lincoln's bust is a driving factor in score reduction if present in large numbers, even if small dings.
3. The clean field is insufficient to compensate for these deductions (my inference).
4. Grading can work from the perspective of deductions from a high, then decreasing based on impairments, rather than adding points from a base low score.
I'll present another coin for review soon and ask if eye appeal can compensate for scratches on a Jeffie with Full Steps.
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Bedrock of the Community
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And of course, there is no 'algebra' for coin grading. Methods/approaches have improved over the decades, but grading remains subjective.
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Bedrock of the Community
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The high point areas are from strike weakness, typical in the 50's.
It's a very attractive coin but the field marks drop the grade.
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