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Transition Varieties Of Barber Dimes

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 Posted 12/26/2020  11:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
It's been two years since this thread led me down a long journey.
http://goccf.com/t/334264&whichpage=6

So I'm overdue for thanking CCF, particularly MeadowviewCollector. The counterfeit in the above topic led me to discover (or at least document) a third Barber dime reverse type. This led me to discover two new transition varieties - 1899-P with reverse of 1900, and 1900-S with reverse of 1892-1899. I published an article on this in the Barber Coin Collectors' Society journal in 2019.

I then found an unknown obverse transition variety, a 1901-O with the obverse of 1892-1900, and published another BCCS article on that.

Meanwhile, I looked at online images of several thousand dimes, searched articles in BCCS archives and The Numismatist, and dug into mint archives on the Newman Numismatic Portal. It's probably taken several hundred hours so far.

I decided to try to obtain examples of all 11 of the less common or scarce transition varieties, which took me a year and a half. Still working on it! I put together a slideshow on all of it (which is a work in progress): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hO...?usp=sharing

I never would have imagined that I would get so immersed in Barber dimes, but I guess that's how it goes in coin collecting. If the slideshow link is not allowed, feel free to PM me and I'll send it to you, as well as the two BCCS articles if you're interested.

Above all, thanks again to CCF! You never know where a forum topic will lead you.
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Very interesting to say the least. As a member of the BCCS I've heard of these different die marriages but never felt compelled to examine them more closely. To find two new varieties is a great accomplishment aiding to the history behind the design.
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Thanks for your hard work...
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It was actually three new varieties. The 1899-P "early release" of the 1900-1905 Reverse 2, and the 1900-S Reverse 1, both based on the discovery of the third reverse type. The third new variety was the 1901-O Obverse 1. It was previously believed that all 1901 and later dimes were Obverse 2. And actually a fourth discovery - the 1901-O Obverse 1 coins all have a previously undocumented 1/1 RPD. There's a closeup of it in the slideshow.

It's pretty similar to the Jefferson nickel 1939 "reverse of 1938" and "reverse of 1940" scenario, among others. One interesting thing to me that makes the Barber dimes stand out is that it went on for 6 years, 1899-1905. Obviously not many collectors care, and I've had no luck getting any other publications to take notice, so I've posted here and over at NGC just in the hopes that the research doesn't disappear. There was an excellent BCCS article Fall 2017 by John Reynolds fleshing out the relative scarcity of the previously known 1901-1905 anomalies with the "thick ribbon" reverse (which I now call Reverse 3). The TPGs don't seem to want to designate the types either, which is another long story.

The questions that still intrigue me - Why did Barber subtly change the reverse for 1900, and then the obverse for 1901? Why did he change the reverse again partway into 1901, after just changing it a little over a year earlier? Where did San Francisco get all the Reverse 2 dies, production of which ended in early 1901, such that they continued minting Reverse 2 coins all the way into 1905? There will probably never be clear answers but speculating about it keeps me entertained.
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Just arrived. I decided to pick up a graded example of 1900-S Reverse 1 "reverse of 1892-1899" transition variety. AU53. Not easy to find.

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For reference, this is the official new 1900 Reverse 2 (MS63). Note the differences in leaf veins and corn kernels.
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Just arrived, 1903-S Reverse 3 "thick ribbon". Although this is the normal reverse for the year, for some reason San Francisco reverted to coining nearly all Reverse 2 "thin ribbon" from the 1900 design. VG Details-Damage but a slight upgrade from my AG-G4 raw example. I judge it as the toughest of the 1899-1905 transition varieties to find.

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