1977 5 Cent, Strange Rim Anomalies.. PMD Or Something Else?

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JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 01:06 am Happy new year CCF! While hunting a couple of boxes of nickels I came across this 1977 5 cent coin with weird stuff happening on the rim in a couple of spots along with the surface. My first thought was PMD but looking closer I started to question if this could possibly be some sort of strikethrough. On the bottom, you can see that inside the crevis of this anomaly it looks frosted like what you would typically find on a strike through surface. On top of the coin, something else is going on. It looks like the rim was cracked as the "cut" is completely uneven, unlike a cut you would see formed from any kind of cutting tool. It too has a frosted like surface. Overall, to me, I don't see any signs of tool or file marks so I'm hoping to get some opinions. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007 01/01/2021 01:15 am Report this Post to the Staff

That Coin Dude Pillar of the Community United States 1427 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 04:33 am Damage. Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 07:24 am PMD the denticles have been pushed in at bottom of reverse Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 09:42 am Inclined to agree. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 11:22 am Quote: the denticles have been pushed in at bottom of reverse The denticles on the bottom of the reverse look completely removed, there are no signs of them being pushed in, they just aren't there at all, and the portion that resembles "dovetailing" on the bottom really throws me off. I usually have no issues determining PMD, or agreeing when I receive opinions but this one just seems like there is more than meets the eye. If you click on the photos they should enlarge and get a better view. Another reason I am not fully convinced is I had found 4 other coins with legit planchet errors in the same roll this came out of and it just didn't seem to be coincidental. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 01/01/2021 12:04 pm the denticles should form a symmetrical circle. Yours does not. Must be post strike. May be tough extraction damage but a definite HIT. Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10458 Posts	Posted 01/02/2021 7:47 pm The flaw at 12 o'clock looks legit, the one at 5:30 (reverse) does not, but ultimately, these things have to be examined in hand to be sure. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
Bond632 Valued Member Canada 98 Posts	Posted 01/02/2021 10:03 pm Can you show us the 4 other coins with planchet errors, it might help to determine this one, if they are all similar. Report this Post to the Staff
JohnWayne007 Pillar of the Community Canada 1186 Posts	Posted 01/03/2021 02:32 am The only reason I'm not fully convinced it is just damage is the lack of misplaced metal and the surface inside this crevis, along with the planchet crack through the date that seems to connect to this. Typical damage usually only goes one way but with this, it goes in different directions and has a rough surface like what you would find on a strike through. If it is damaged I'm curious to know what could possibly cut into the edge of a coin and leave a surface looking bubbly and frosted. Maybe it's just me, but here are a couple of close ups with some better lighting. The longer I look at these the less they seem to make any sense even for damage. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Report this Post to the Staff
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