Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Licinius II With A Busy Reverse.

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 1,014Next Topic  
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Palouche's Avatar
Spain
2752 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  12:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Happy New Year everyone!

Picked up this neat little Licinius II Billon Follis and thought I'd share it.
A little titbit to start off the New Year!

Licinius II (Valerius Licinianus Licinius), was the son of Emperor Licinius I and grandson of Constantius I. He was born in 315AD and became Caesar to his father in 317AD at the ripe old age of Two! He remained Caesar until 324AD after his fathers defeat by Constantine and Crispus. His father was eventually hung in 325AD and the young Licinius was also executed one year later in 326AD he was only 11 years old!

Licinius II (Caesar, 317-324). Æ Follis, 2.96 gram, 19.0mm, Antioch (Antakya, Turkey) mint,
Obverse..D N VAL LICIN LICINIVS NOB C ("Our Lord Valerius Licinianus Licinius, Noblest Caesar"), helmeted, cuirassed bust left, shield in left hand and spear in right held over shoulder;
Reverse..IOVI CONSERVATORI ("To Jupiter the protector"), Jupiter standing facing, head left, nude but for chlamys over shoulder, Victory on globe offering wreath in his right hand, eagle-topped scepter vertical in left, eagle with wreath in beak on left, X/IIΓ (12 1/2) on right above bearded captive at feet seated right with head turned looking back at Jupiter, SMANTZ in exergue (7th officina)
RIC VII Antioch 36 (R3), SRCV IV 15410, Cohen VII 21,
Licinius-II-With-A-Busy-Reverse.

This will be the start of a small subcollection from Antioch and will appeal to my hunter-gatherer instincts ....This series of coins contains..
Rarity ratings of RIC 36 from the various officinae:
SMANTA R2..SMANTB R3..SMANT gamma R3..SMANT delta R2..SMANT epsilon R4..SMANTS R2..SMANTZ R3..SMANTH R2.

Anyone know what the significance of the X/IIΓ (12 1/2)in the field? I'm assuming it's some sort of value?




Pillar of the Community
Kamnaskires's Avatar
United States
7066 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kamnaskires to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a nice start to the new year, Paul. Great coin with real artistry and attractive patina. Looking forward to the Antioch sub-collection. Should be fruitful given the prolific mint action there.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Palouche's Avatar
Spain
2752 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Bob!....This Caesar doesn't seem to be at the top of many collectors want lists, although I'm sure there are specialists..His coins are readily available and cheap with quite a few design styles.

Quote:
Anyone know what the significance of the X/IIΓ (12 1/2)in the field? I'm assuming it's some sort of value?
...It seems that this numerical formula was only used at the mints controlled by Licinius I..Sear's Roman Coins and their Values volume IV quotes.."It has been suggested that the curious numerical formula on the reverse indicates a revaluation of the follis from 25 to 12 ½ denarii (Carson: "Coins of the Roman Empire" p167)....
Moderator
Learn More...
echizento's Avatar
United States
23731 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lovely coin Paul, well struck with lovely sand patina.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Novicius's Avatar
United Kingdom
1168 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Novicius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another super coin with clear detail, Paul. Nice one.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1554 Posts
 Posted 01/01/2021  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
25 denarii = 100 sestertii, by some accounts the origin of "centenionalis". For reasons unknown, Licinius seems to have tariffed his version at half.
Pillar of the Community
United States
1120 Posts
 Posted 01/02/2021  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for posting Paul. I have one of these issues and always wondered what the X/IIΓ meant. Very nice write up too. Learned something new.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Victor's Avatar
United States
905 Posts
 Posted 01/14/2021  10:23 am  Show Profile   Check Victor's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Victor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
an ancient source that seems to reference the Licinian coin reduction--

"Dionysius to Apion, greeting. The divine Fortune of our masters has ordained that the Italian coinage be reduced to the half of a nummus. Make haste, therefore, to spend all the Italian silver that you have in purchases, on my behalf, of goods of every description at whatever prices you find them. For this purpose I have dispatched an officialis to you. But take notice that should you intend to indulge in any malpractices I shall not allows you to do so. I pray, my brother, that you may long be in health. (Verso) I received the letter from the officials on the eight of the month Pharmouthi."

Source: Letter in Archive of official Theophanes, c. 321 (P. Rylands IV. 607). Translation from L. C. West and A. C. Johnson, Currency in Roman Byzantine Egypt (Princeton, 1944), pp. 184-185, no. 7. See M. Hendy, SBME, pp. 463-64 and R. Bagnall, Inflation in Fourth Century Egypt, pp. 12-15, who redate the papyrus from earlier dates as argued by C. H. Robert and J. G. Milne in Trans. of Inter. Num. Congress, 1936 (London, 1938), pp. 246-249 and C. H. V. Sutherland, JRS 51 (1961), 94-97.
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
Palouche's Avatar
Spain
2752 Posts
 Posted 01/14/2021  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Palouche to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the comments guys!
@Victor...That's really interesting thank you!
  Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 1,014Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.32 seconds to rattle this change. Forums