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Is This A Legitimate Ancient Greek Coin?

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Item weighs 1.15 grams. Identified on flip card as Archaic period coin from Northern Greece from the 400's BC. Identified as a "Tritemorian," which I have not found. I have found the coinage of "Tritartemorion", being 3/4ths of an obol, which had a typical weight of .54 grams.

Purchased for $40. I was unfamiliar with design but presumed it was an authentic ancient coin, being purchased from a seller at a coin show who had only ancient coins. But I have never seen another coin of this design. And the following year I noticed that the same seller had a number of coins that I could not identify from the flip information.

All me makes me wonder if what I got is not some sort of fantasy coin.

Any opinions?

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Not one that I've seen before. Interesting looking piece.
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This looks off to me (ie: a fantasy, or a grand tour fabrication), but that is just a gut feel based on other archaic period Greek coins that I have handled (and been able to identify, which I can't say for this).
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Almost certainly not genuine perhaps inspired by a siglos from Amisos
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looks to be modern, struck with a punch (rather than die) on a blob of "silver"
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The long-neck portraiture is totally wrong for Archaic-period Greece, reminding me instead of Roman-era Black Sea coinages. And the "fabric" is wrong, too: both of the dies appear to be "punch-like", pushing the design deep inside an incuse border; archaic coins were typically made with a large, flat obverse die in the anvil position, with a smaller "punch" die on the reverse; thus the obverses on these coins have no border.
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Fantasy item. Obverse style is completely wrong for the purported period (eyes should be almond-shaped and facing out, not forward) and the obverse shouldn't be set in an incuse punch.

Compare against an authentic diobol from the same time period:
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