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 Posted 12/11/2008  4:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Podoprigora to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-s-vdb-alte...ok_W0QQitemZ160302329209QQihZ006QQcategoryZ39456QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 12/11/2008  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littleboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like the S is from a 1920s-30s coin, added to a genuine 1909VDB cent
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 Posted 12/11/2008  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The seller bought a bunk coin with an added mint mark, ANACS said it was altered, this fool seems to disagree and now someone else will get burned with it as well to the tune of $265
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 Posted 12/11/2008  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some people will fight for the right to be separated from their money. Just can't help that.
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 Posted 12/11/2008  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh man.is that the 1928-only "S" mm? Seems that wandered off one coin onto this one.

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FYI, there are only 4 mint mark positions for the 1909-S VDB:

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Obviously fake—someone was taken for their $265.
That's a cleaned EF, a $2 hole-filler now.
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 Posted 12/12/2008  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bqcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ouch, thats why it always pays to know your stuff
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 Posted 12/12/2008  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add markapsolon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know much about Lincoln cents but from what KurtS put up it looks like the mint mark is off.

Something that get me is if the coin is certified as altered WHY IS HE SELLING IT FOR $265?
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 Posted 12/12/2008  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure someone would buy it just to fill the hole in their album!
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He states right in the ad that ALTERED or NOT? Pretty much leaves it up to the buyer. If they see them pix and still buy it, so be it. He says that hes not really sure right in the description. One mans loss is another mans gain! o well.. I didnt fall for it!
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 Posted 12/12/2008  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe someone has a counterfeit collection..?
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 Posted 12/12/2008  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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He states right in the ad that ALTERED or NOT? Pretty much leaves it up to the buyer.
In other words--I suspect he knows it isn't real because anyone in their right mind would make sure. He's betting somebody won't check themselves and buy it on simple hopes. It's an insincere auction at best (imo), or just an outright scam--your call.
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Well, in the listing he's being honest, more or less. What do you want to bet that the winner of this auction resells it, though?
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 Posted 12/14/2008  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HippieOutcast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well he is not lying - people can see its a fake, so its their fault they spent money on the coin.
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 Posted 12/14/2008  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going to still disagree--his deliberate vagueness invites speculation and hopeful bidding. I've seen too many of this type of auction, and I'm not naive about the seller's motives (IMO)

In the seller's own words:
"...possible altered coin" possible--or for certain? Looking at that coin, the seller should be 100% sure--it's simply egregious.

"looks real was purchased for high dollars and now is being sold as not authentic coin"--Again, real? and who purchased this for "high dollars", and why?

"could be real could be fake?" Again he's being wishy-washy for a reason--to make more money, simple as that. (IMO)

I consider this the worst kind of misrepresentation because you cannot go after them--they have effectively provided an exit from liability.
I think his wording is very deliberate, as is the "no-returns" policy. I would never pull such a lame excuse for a transaction on anybody.
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