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As we start 2021 the first release of the new year has been announced to Masters Club members. Let's hope that 2021 will be better for variety and delivery performance than 2020.
All coins dated 2021:
- Pure Silver Proof Dollar (3/4 oz) 36mm - 100th Anniversary of the Bluenose/KGV obverse - Mintage: 30,000 - $69.95
- Pure Gold $100 (1/4 oz) - 100th Anniversary of Bluenose Launch- Mintage 2,000 - $1099.95 Note: This is now 99.99% vs. 14kt and has been reduced from 27mm to 20mm diameter
- Pure Silver Proof Set - includes Silver Proof Dollar but with Selective Gold Plating - 10c has KGVI obverse - Mintage 20,000 - $234.95
- Pure Silver Subscription Series 3 coins (5oz) - First 100 years of confederation Land/Sea/Air travel - Mintage 1,250 - $599.95 each
- Pure Gold $200 Relics of New France: Louis XIV 30 Deniers (1oz) - 30mm - Mintage: 350 - $4,399.95
- Pure Silver $125 Chinese New Year Triumphant Dragon (selective Gold Plate) (1/2 kg) - 85.5mm - Mintage 888 - $1,288.88
- Pure Gold $8 Chinese New Year Triumphant Dragon (1/20 oz) - Mintage 8,888 - 14.1mm - $288.88
- Pure Silver Wedding $20 Selective Plated (1 oz) - Mintage 10,000 - 40mm - $119.95
- Pure Silver Welcome to world baby feet $10 (1/2 oz) - Mintage 20,000 - $59.95
Classic Unc Set - Mintage 75,000 - $26.95
Gift Sets - Happy Birthday/Born/Married/Oh Canada - Standard Unc Set with $1 replaced with themed coin - Mintage 100,000 each - $21.95 each
Thoughts:
I like the Bluenose theme... not sure about the end of the $100 14Kt 27mm gold series as it appears to have been morphed into a 99.99% 20mm coin.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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Thanks for the update! Quote:
- Pure Silver Proof Dollar (3/4 oz) 36mm - 100th Anniversary of the Bluenose/KGV obverse - Mintage: 30,000 - $69.95
- Pure Silver Proof Set - includes Silver Proof Dollar but with Selective Gold Plating - 10c has KGVI obverse - Mintage 20,000 - $234.95 Great! New SDs for my collection - I've looked forward to the January release for years!  Quote:
not sure about the end of the $100 14Kt 27mm gold series as it appears to have been morphed into a 99.99% 20mm coin. Such a change would be enough for me to not continue with the series. Composition change is one thing, but when the size of the coin changes, it's a different story for me. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/05/2021 3:02 pm
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@commems Quote:
Such a change would be enough for me to not continue with the series I wonder what the drive was? With Taxes (GST/HST) being applied to an increasingly expensive coin and pure gold allows some jurisdictions to classify it as tax exempt. Last year's coin was $800, at $1,100 this is a 38% price increase. I know that gold has gone up in price but... Or was it just that the RCM wanted to get out of Alloys. The SD has ranged from its current 99.99% Silver to as low as 50% in the '80's This is the first significant change in the $100 since the change from 22kt to 14kt in 1987. The 27mm size was retained through that evolution though. Given that the composition is now 99.99%, the weight has dropped to 7.8 g (1/4 oz) from 12 grams as the 5g of silver is not needed for the 14K alloy... There just isn't enough material to make a 27mm coin. UK Sovereigns roll in at 22mm but they are a 22kt gold/copper alloy. 20mm is a reasonable size... the question though is whether it is actually still collectible at that size... that is a subjective and individual decision... I am going to give it a look. I am quite happy with the 1/25 oz series as they are small and kitchy. I am not as happy with the 1/10 oz Coleville set at 16mm. They underwhelm. If I don't like it, I will return it and sign off on the $100... A series I have collected since the initial pair of $100 coins in 1976 in 22kt and 14kt. I am happy with the 22kt even though it is 25mm... (sort of like the 38mm Two Loons or the 34mm Piedfort Matthew Silver Dollars... Close enough to be in the club but only with an asterisk) The 20mm $100 will be a whole new series. Edited by vonigohcr
01/05/2021 7:19 pm
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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@vonigohcr: I've been thankful that the RCM has kept the SD at the traditional 36 mm size as it changed the fineness/composition over the years. If they had made the diameter larger or smaller, I likely would have stopped buying the NCLT SDs. I realize that I'm fairly strict with my approach, but I want to set boundaries for my core collections, otherwise they can get out of hand with "exceptions." I don't consider anything other than 36 mm to be the "correct" size for a SD and so don't even include the Two Loons $1 coin (38 mm) as part of my set. I hope things work out for you re: the gold $100 series. I'm sure it would be tough to give up a long-term collecting pursuit if you don't like the new size once it is in hand. Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/05/2021 7:45 pm
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Given that the composition is now 99.99%, the weight has dropped to 7.8 g (1/4 oz) from 12 grams as the 5g of silver is not needed for the 14K alloy With regards to the 1/4 oz Gold being 99.99 and 20mm. I am actually getting back into these $100 coins as I had a point of contention that buying the 24 kt $200 came with no tax, but the $100 14kt was taxed due to being NOT Fine/pure gold. That being said, we are now paying for 1/4 oz the same as what the $200 1/2 oz used to be. Ouch. It's gonna hurt. I just hope they only do it once a year. |
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Is the $69 SD a special or limited edition? Or did the regular SD price increase from $59.95 to $69.95?
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This is a regular edition (uncolored proof). Both price and mintage went up (59.95->69.95 and 25000 -> 30000).
The only interesting coin I see in this release is Silver 10 cents with George VI obverse.
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@commems Quote:
otherwise they can get out of hand with "exceptions." It has always been fairly easy with the SD at 36mm to draw a line. The obvious non-standard SDs (Loon sized, Big Sized (5oz) etc.) have all been easy to exclude. I will admit that the Two Loons was a tough one for me. At 38mm it does actually fit my storage /presentation box.. the 34mm Piedfort Matthew and the two UHR Peace dollars from the last 2 yrs have not fit my storage due to the thicker than average capsules. Where does your philosophy lie with respect to the Peace dollars... they are both 36 mm (36.15) but their thickness due to the UHR Reverse is definitely non-standard. As I said though... if the new $100 is appealing then it will be a new collection and adieu to the 27mm $100.. it does feel odd though to see a long term series end. I expected it with the Scalloped Lunar New Year set... I didn't with the $100. |
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As @Mice45 says, the SD and the SD in the proof set are the annual releases with the proof set version being Selectively Gold Plated. I would assume that a Special Edition will be announced later in the year. Quote:
The only interesting coin I see in this release is Silver 10 cents with George VI obverse That is a bit harsh... I like the approach on the SD for the Bluenose. Also I quite like the design of the 5oz series ... I like small details like the evolution of the font used for "Canada" to help represent the era however I will wait a few years for the secondary market to deflate the RCM silver markup before I add to my collection. |
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Quote: Where does your philosophy lie with respect to the Peace dollars... they are both 36 mm (36.15) but their thickness due to the UHR Reverse is definitely non-standard. I'm OK with the thicker and very slightly larger UHR SDs - I have the 2010 Sun dollar and the 2008 Poppy dollar which were both struck on the thicker 36.15 mm planchet. So, when the 2020 Peace dollar came along, I made my purchase; I also purchased the 2019 UHR Peace/Liberty medal. So far, I've passed on the 2021 Peace SD as it is the same design except for the date. If I knew the RCM was going to stop the series with the 2021 issue, I would pick one up - I don't want to start a long-term annual set of the coin, however. My "Type Set" blood runs too thick! Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/06/2021 10:00 pm
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@commems Quote:
So far, I've passed on the 2021 Peace SD as it is the same design except for the date. True, but there is a difference in the finish. The 2020 is a proof finish and the 2021 is a reverse proof. |
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@Jimper: Yes, and that's the only reason I am still considering getting one. I'm just fearful that a selectively gold-plated version will appear in 2022, and then a rhodium plus gold-plated version in 2023, and in 2024... We all know how the RCM can milk a design theme! Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
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I need to echo vonigohcr's positive comment above re: the design approach taken for the SD. I also like how the depiction of the Bluenose transitions from the designer's drawing/rendering to the actual sailing ship. I look forward to seeing it in hand! I'll add that the selectively gold-plated version of the SD in the Silver Proof Set also looks good - the Bluenose stands out nicely on the coin.
The Percy Metcalfe portrait of King George V has long been one of my favorites. It's nice to see it on this commemorative piece.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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01/07/2021 10:45 am
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That Bluenose design on the SD is a nice one. I wonder if at some point there might be a special 10cent? Kind of like the way there was a special V 5cent for 2020. I'm thinking we would have seen it by now.
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I wonder if at some point there might be a special 10cent? Kind of like the way there was a special V 5cent for 2020 The special 5 cent last year was a rework of an existing design... I don't think there will be a new reverse as they don't have an alternate design previously issued though the RCM site says that the proof dime has KGVI on the obverse. That may be the limit of the departure. I don't expect KGVI to be on the circulation dimes (it isn't on the UNC set) but it will be interesting to see if the KGVI obverse propagates to the plethora of proof sets (Base metal proof set with coloured SD & Coloured Silver set with 36mm Medal). |
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I just read the release for the 2021 proof set. Looks like there will be a special 10 cent, at least in the proof set.
The 10 cent still features the Bluenose, but is double dated with 1921 to the left of the Bluenose and 2021 in the usual spot on the right. The gift cards are not double dated on the 10 cent, I wonder if any other might get that? I'd suspect a specimen set will have it as well.
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01/07/2021 8:44 pm
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