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Franklin Mint 'Coins Of All Nations'

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Have been looking at getting some FM sets to fill some gaps but have a few questions.
1. Are any of the coins in the 'Coins of All Nations' actually FM mintmarked? Example - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Nepal-C...a-Coin-1971/ According to Numista there was no FM edition for this coin so $6 seems a bit pricey for a UNC 1971 coin. I tend to find the PNC editions a tad pricey.
2. Are all the FM coin sets "Coin sets of all nations" simply regular UNC circulation coins of different years packaged together? Are they overpriced? They seem so.
3. Are FM proof sets good prices at present or is the market running hot?

Thanks in advance
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As far as I know, this was just a put together set of regular circulation coins of the particular country. "coin sets of all nations" had all the circulating coins, and I think that the one you are referring to has a single coin per country. the coin itself is quite ordinary and in most cases low value, although in UNC condition.
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Yes, the FM Coin sets of all nations used regular circulation coins (in fancy packaging) - One exception is the 1982 Chinese sets, 1982 1-2-5 fen are incredibly scarce, so the sets are usually priced accordingly!
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I have noted before that occasionally Franklin Mint struck coins are included in these sets - eg Jamaica where these sets are some of the only way to get 1984 (U) 20c, 25c, and 50c coins. This is also true I know of Solomon Islands and think the 1978 (U) coins of 1 & 2c included.

I have noticed as have others that although these are cobbled together sets, the quality of coins included is usually very good and some appear to be nearly specimen quality although not proof.
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1. Mostly no, most of the coins in these "Coins of all Nations" sets were not produced by the Franklin Mint. Franklin Mint were simply acting as a coin dealer, purchasing bulk foreign coins, "adding value" by packaging them up pretty, and selling them for a huge mark-up.

2. Yes, they used whatever coins they could obtain cheaply and in bulk. They are not "official sets" issued by the government that issued the coins.

3. Prices for Franklin Mint proof sets are generally better now than they used to be. The main thing you need to be aware of with these sets is that they can self-destruct, especially in hot, humid environments. While the quality of the coins in the sets is undoubtedly good, it's the packaging you need to be aware of. The pseudo-velvet which they used to line the insides of the proof set box emits corrosive by-products as it degrades. Red-dyed pseudo-velvet is the worst.

These coins were mass-marketed to non-coin-collectors. They usually came with a little instruction card on "how to care for your coins". The card told you to get some scissors, cut apart the blister-pack the coins were shipped in, put on the disposable gloves that were also shipped with the coins, and carefully place the coins into the pseudo-velvet-lined box.

This does mean that anybody who obeyed Franklin Mint's little instruction card - which would probably be a majority of the set's purchasers - inadvertently destroyed their coins. Ask any coin dealer who's had to handle a deceased estate of a Franklin Mint victim, a coin hoarder who bought thousands of dollars worth of FM proof sets and stored them away in an attic for several decades - it's heartbreaking to tell the heirs that all they have is a pile of corroded scrap metal. The only proof sets that are still in pristine condition are those that were stored in dry or cold climates, those who ignored Franklin Mint's instructions and kept their coins in the blister packs (which actually do a really good job at protecting the coins), and those which were bought by actual coin collectors who threw the packaging away and placed the coins in 2x2s or similarly protective housing.

The net result is that the surviving numbers of high-quality FM proof coins and sets is far, far below what the mintage figures might suggest. Reduced supply means higher prices for the survivors.
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