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Question About Rotated Die Varieties

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Are rotated die coin varieties common and not reported as errors?
I have this 1972 nickel with rotated dies but can't find any reference to this coin variety documented in any online coin publications.

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I would say only when coins make it to 45, 90, 180 degrees
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You have neither side aligned properly in the holder, so you can't tell what the rotation, if there is one, actually is. If there is one, it's pretty small.
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Here is a sure way to find out:
get a second coin of the same year.
put it in a 2x2 obv heads up
put yours exactly the same in a 2x2
put both on a flat surface next to each other, obv facing up
use tape to glue them together where they join
turn the 2 over and use tape on the other side
NOW you can see the die rotation... IF any!
have fun...
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Or simply cut a thin white tape, line up the Queen at 12 o clock, flip over, measure rotation
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It's hard to tell zoomed in, if you can show photos of the whole flip, both sides, then maybe someone here can help you.
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HI
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Thanks all , I have straightened it in the holder and here is a side by side with my 1973. Clearly a die rotation but I'm wondering if a die rotation is considered a error coin or is it a common occurrence?
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Small rotations are common and worth very little, need 45 degrees for some value and of course a true 180 or upside down beaver is quite valuable and rare, recently a 1967 rabbit upset die sold for over 5000
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I found a 1940 Canadian penny with a rotation of 25 degrees counter clockwise last night.
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Up to 15 or so degrees is considered within mint tolerances for coins prior to the mid 1980s.
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The Cook version of the 1967 upset die goose dollar was sold yesterday at TCNC auctions, kind of shows value of true 180 as the denominations goes higher
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Just to piggyback a bit on the Op's thread,
I have a 180 degree rotated die on a 1989 Canadian dime I found CRH, it's graded MS-62 now by PCGS.
I tried to get it included in the Charlton book but they said no because they said they needed at least five examples before they would list it.
Anyone have any ballpark value on such a coin?
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