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1923-S SLQ

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hi everyone. my name is mike. I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I recently found a 1923-s SLQ with my minelab explorer metal detector at a los angeles park. I was hoping some of the experts here on the forum can "photo-grade" my coin! I want to send it in to ANACS to have it graded and slabbed, but just thought i'd see what you guys and gals thought the grade is...

thanks in advance!

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reverse 23-s SLQ

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 Posted 12/13/2008  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to Coin Community, Mike. A 1923-S SLQ is one heck of a find with a metal detector.

You haven't done anything whatsoever to clean it, right? I worry about the marks on the reverse - they might be interpreted as "damage," resulting in a Net grade.

I'm no expert with this series, but it looks about F12-F15 from the photos. The last PCGS-slabbed F15 sold at Heritage brought over $600; in an ANACS slab that would be a little lower but still quite the payday for a day's detecting.
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 Posted 12/13/2008  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum, Mike. As one who speaks from experience that is a really nice metal detecting find. What a great date to find. How did you clean it up? I think it has VG-8 details. but the pictures kind of look like it was scrubbed. I always tried to clean up silver coins from the ground by just rinsing the dirt off and patting them dry. Of course copper coins and nickels were next to impossible to restore. I finally decided it was the collecting old coins I liked better than digging in the ground. An expensive decision.
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thanks super dave and okie colin!

i didn't clean or scrub this coin at all. I rinsed it with bottled water seconds after I dug it out of the ground. there was a clump of dirt still attached to the reverse, and I did wipe it off gently with my thumb, but all scratches on the coin were either already there or happened by the coin rubbing against earth as I loosened it from the ground. the ground that I found it in was dry and rocky. all in all, what you see in the pic is how it came out of the ground.
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Did you look around to see if there was a 1916 or a 1921 lurking in the ground nearby? Jeez, what a fabulous find!
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Hello Mike, and

The pre-1925 Standing Liberty quarters lost their dates easily from circulation wear because the dates were a "high point" of the design, unprotected by other design elements. The grading services take this into account for these coins. Your quarter is missing part of the date which for most coins would put it into the About Good range. However, I think this quarter might grade as high as VF-30 or so for detail. Except for the date, the details are quite strong.

As is the case for most metal detector finds, ANACS would probably slab this coin with an "environmental damage" note on the label. It would still be worth sending it for grading since the ANACS slab guarantees authenticity. As SuperDave noted, it is easily worth several hundred dollars, even with the defect.

It's a terrific find and you are one lucky guy. Congratulations!
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 Posted 12/15/2008  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome! I'm horrible at grading these but F? I could also see it as a low VF. Great find! Is this your best find?
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thanks, weerdsteve, Jaobler and Amazon99!

Amazon99- yes, this is my best find yet. I have found a few others but none as valuable as this 23s SLQ. other coins that I have found over the years are: 1938-d walker, 1913-d type 2 buffalo, and an AU 1911-s Barber quarter.

thanks for all the replies. someone in the grading forum graded the details on this coin as VF30 with environmental damage. I wonder what I could sell this coin for? I probably wont sell, but it's fun to think about.

thanks again!

Mike
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Incredible find and to the Community!

BTW, I have some family up the road in Three Arch Bay.
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Awesome find and
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Here's an ANACS "problem" example of this coin, graded as VF-30 details, cleaned and scratched. Your coin has a similar level of detail (note how weak the date is on the ANACS coin). I would guess that the environmental damage and scratches on your coin would bring it to a roughly equivalent point in terms of net value. The ANACS coin sold for $690 (including buyer's premium) in a 2007 Heritage auction.

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thanks, Jaobler! I appreciate that. my coin has a darker appearance than this one. not super-dark, but a gray-silver color. should I leave it as is? if this one is cleaned and sold for $690 would my value go up or down if I cleaned it or left it alone? I know that generally cleaning is a cardinal sin, but do you think the color of my coin helps or hurts?

Thanks!

Mike
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Fantastic find.

Don't clean it! It is better the way it is. :)

Oh, where are my manners!



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Don't clean it Mike! If you submit it to ANACS they will slab it even with environmental damage. I would submit it if it were mine. With the authenticity varified that will be a valuable coin.
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I agree with my colleagues, don't clean it. The color won't hurt the value. You will be better off with the final ANACS label reading "environmental damage, scratched" rather than "environmental damage, scratched, and cleaned".

I will be very interested in how ANACS grades it. Please post the results when you get it back!
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