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thq Pillar of the Community United States 3343 Posts	Posted 01/23/2021 9:38 pm Looking at Dutch ducats, I became aware that they were counterfeited on a massive scale by Russia. The point was not to debase them, but to imitate them intentionally as a medium of exchange. They were called chervontsy. Here's a typical 1849 example: https://www.ma-shops.com/schwarz/item.php?id=4833 In 1849 Utrecht minted 14,344 of these. Over the next 19 years Russia minted 4.75 MILLION 1849 Utrecht counterfeits.Utrecht stopped minting ducats altogether, until the Russian government finally agreed to stop making them in 1868. https://coinweek.com/world-coins/wo...ducat-began/ "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire Edited by thq 01/23/2021 9:43 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Yokozuna Pillar of the Community United States 4618 Posts	Posted 01/23/2021 10:05 pm Wow! Makes Henning seem like a real amateur with a estimated 500,000 counterfeit Jefferson nickels to his credit! ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 01/23/2021 10:17 pm Same sort of thing happened with British sovereigns in the Middle East. Some counterfeit sovereigns were even minted in gold of higher purity than the originals! The British government responded in a different way than the Dutch did. The market was flooded with genuine sovereigns, all with a fixed date of 1925. Last year of mintage for these coins was 1952. Edited by sel_69l 01/23/2021 10:23 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Pertinax Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2133 Posts	Posted 01/23/2021 10:45 pm The USSR printed and issued 10 and 20 deutsche mark notes in the 70s and 80s - not to attack the West German economy but to provide a non-US dollar form of hard currency for their citizens. I remember being shown the differences by a German dealer; they were easy to spot. In Moscow, they traded at 2 to 2.5 counterfeit marks to 1 genuine mark. The most well-known imitation currency is the silver Maria Theresa (Austrian) thaler - minted by many countries including USA, Britain, France, Germany, several countries in the Middle East and when I was a boy, they were in common usage in North Africa and sub-Saharan Africa. Lawrence of Arabia received gold sovereigns and silver thalers to pay local chiefs for alliance and information. In addition, issuing of imitation currency goes back to ancient times. Report this Post to the Staff
NumisEd Pillar of the Community United States 5191 Posts	Posted 01/23/2021 10:51 pm These Dutch Ducats are the oldest Type Set coins in the world that are still minted. You could construct a Type Set from 1586 all the way to the present! Report this Post to the Staff
gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 01/25/2021 2:01 pm The Swedish counterfeited 5 kopek coins back in the late 1700s. Pretty rare now today if you can find one today. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
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