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I recently purchased an 1885 NFLD 20c over ebay. It was graded EF-40 - comments section *blank* - by ICCS and looked, if anything, better than that. Some small part of my mind thought "hey, it's graded EF-40 and it looks better than that - must be a deal right?" But no.... in hand it's clearly and liberally covered with hairlines. Massive bummer.... Clearly should have said "cleaned" or "hairlines" on the ticket. |
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I find that buying circulated coins in ICCS plastic is a crap shoot. They tend to grade circulated stuff more conservatively than PCGS, but they also holder many problem coins that PCGS would body bag.
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I hear you, sometimes I swear that "cleaned/hairlines" is a variety attribution that ICCS would make you pay extra for.
I also feel the same about MS 62. They can be a crap shoot as well.
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@Johnnysprawl - yes that's the one.
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It was graded EF-40....  You said EF45 before, or is this a different coin, not the one you posted about a month ago. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Sorry. EF-45 is correct. I'm *still* not set up to take decent photographs but that's plan #1 once the pandemic is over. If I've still got it I'll post then.
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Usually ICCS drops the grade a bit and omits the 'hairlines' comment.
A practice I don't agree with but one in which we have to live with.
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@doubleeagle59 - yes, I suspect that's exactly what they did. It's a serious degradation of the whole practise of grading coins - particularly when there's so much trading and selling going on online. The purpose of grading is to give everyone a sense of what they're looking at.
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From what I've seen, ICCS pays very little attention to the luster or finish or cleaning and don't mention it in any "details". I think that they are just technical graders and grade the wear and strike only.
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Posted 01/29/2021 8:56 pm
