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Cline, J. H. Standing Liberty Quarters, Different Versions?

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Hi everyone,
I just realised I don't own this book, and I see there are four versions available. I am sure there is someone out there that owns all four versions and my question is, is there a major difference between the various versions? Is there one edition that is recommended over all the others? I see the first addition was printed in 1980, and the last edition (4th) was printed in 2007, yes? I know new varieties are found every year, but I don't want to assume the last edition is the best one to get. Any thoughts? Many thanks!

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I operate under the way SLQ's are listed in the Red Book.
That means I see three varieties.
-- Variety 1 - No Stars Below Eagle (1916-1917)
-- Variety 2 - Stars Below Eagle/Pedestal Date (1917-1924)
-- Variety 2a - Stars Below Eagle/Recessed Date (1925-1930)

The Cline book is the only one I know of.
But I believe there is a slight design difference between the 1916 Variety 1 and the 1917 Variety 1.
If I'm correct then there would be a fourth variety.
But considering I'm coming up to 80 years old and my memory is playing tricks on me, I suggest you check with other sources.
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 Posted 02/01/2021  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the first, the 3rd, and the 4th editions. The last one is the one to own in my opinion.
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Kanga, he means there are four varieties (editions) of Clines book.
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I'd be interested in finding out if my comments on SLQ varieties are correct.
Not a series I collect but I'm always interested in trying to keep my Knowledge/facts up to date.
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Kanga, he means there are four varieties (editions) of Clines book.

Yes, thank you, that's what I am meaning. The only correction is instead of "he", it's "she" does the meaning.

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Sorry, didn't know your gender so I used the pronoun "he", which is the grammatically correct pronoun when gender is not known. Unfortunately I will probably not remember your gender in the future, so please understand that no offence is meant if I refer to you as "he" again at some other time.

Kanga you are correct in you descriptions of the varieties, and in the fact that there are some difference between the type 1 1916 and the type 1 1917.
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I used the pronoun "he", which is the grammatically correct pronoun when gender is not known.
I believe that when gender is not known, "they" is preferred now. However, if you have a problem using they as singular, then just use the given name in place of the pronoun.

Of course, you can just ask the person or click on the username to check the profile.
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I just finally purchased my copy of Cline's book I have the 3rd Edition. I am usually under the impression that the latest edition is the best copy to get as it should in theory have less typo errors and updated information that is pertinent to the subject at hand. That isn't always the case as to quality of printing as seen in Sheldon's Penny Whimsey and Crosby's Reprints. Some of those books the early printings had much better quality prints and photo reproductions to be able to tell die varieties which is a paramount importance in our coin collecting world.

That said I can't speak on behalf of any besides Cline's 3rd edition, which I find quite excellent, though I do have a special presentation hardback and printers proof copy. It was my understanding the quality was also great on the last edition (4th) and only had updated pricing information?

I did find this "Tidbit" in an Amazon review:


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If you have a 3rd edition of this book, you don't need to buy the 4th edition.

There are no color photos of the coins. Also, the market data just expands on the last 11 years by adding 2002, 2007, and select auction results. One additional passage about "Speedy" and the rest of the book read like the 3rd edition. I had higher hopes for this book as a SLQ collector and 3rd edition owner.


Take it as intended, as I have not put the 3rd and 4th editions side by side to compare myself, that is only second hand information, though I believe it is accurate.
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No offence taken. It's just difficult to be a woman in a mostly male hobby/field. Plus, I want other women here not to be intimated either. It's all good!

My original question still stands, is there a difference between the various editions? Most times when a new edition is printed, its when the previous edition sold out, and to correct a few typos. Is there a huge difference between the first edition and the forth edition? If so, what are they?

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Thanks westcoin

Any others like to weigh in?

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If you are looking for varieties of the SLQ series the book I recommend is the " Standing Liberty quarter Varieties and Errors" second edition by Robert H. Knauss . It has the best information on the series in my opinion.
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The difference between the 1st and 4th, both of which I have is stark. The 4th has so much more information, history, and details on extra varieties and errors. I do not have the 3rd, so cannot comment.
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