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Previously I made a post that mentioned I had come across a few 2019 5 cent coins that show a circular lathe line in the center on the Reverse of the coin, hidden in the beaver. I came across this when I was searching 2 full boxes of solid date 2019 rolls, they were not OBW rolls but solid date MS coins nonetheless. Although I referred to it as minor, in all of my searches I have never found anything like this on a Canadian coin. Shown below you will find what a normal 2019 nickel looks like, compared to 2019 with the circular lathe lines. Lastly, just for a reference to what I am talking about you will also find a 2015 US nickel with a circular lathe line in the doorway that I found. Normal Reverse.  Reverse with Circular Lathe Line  Here is the 2015 US nickel with the circle in the doorway on the reverse (sorry, I know this is the Canadian section) however this is the only reference I have in order to show exactly what I am talking about.   For those who may not know, the short explanation for these lathe lines, they can happen when the steel they use to make an obverse or reverse die did not have the lines left by the lathe completely polished off before being hubbed with a design. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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If it's on the beaver's haunch it can't be a lathe line IMO. A lathe line would appear dead center on the die, and not in a recessed area, just like the one on the Jefferson nickel does. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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02/01/2021 01:22 am
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DBM, this is dead center on the die. North-west of the back leg under the belly.
Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007
02/01/2021 01:23 am
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Here is a photo showing where the circular lathe line is, if it helps.  Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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This is definitely the same thing as the "Tiny Circles, Semicircles and Spirals" occasionally seen on US coins. There is still uncertainty about the exact cause, some believe in may be lathe lines but others disagree. I don't believe these have been found outside the states yet, now that we know that they can also happen at the Canadian mint that could help narrow down the possible causes. http://www.error-ref.com/tiny-circl...and-spirals/ |
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The new pic definitely helps. It is dead center and at field level. You did indeed find something. I also see a circle at the beaver's knee, Pareidolia perhaps, but the highlight on your new pic removes any doubt. "Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Quote:I also see a circle at the beaver's knee, Pareidolia perhaps DBM, I'm not sure if there is anything at the knee, I will look into that today and find out. Out of 100 rolls, I managed to get a full roll of these. I do have 4 more rolls to look through and I plan to keep every example I do find for now. Mike Diamond ended up with the 2015 P Jefferson nickel over a year ago and I think he called it a "Die Ring" but I'm not sure if he knows exactly what causes this either or if he was just quoting/agreeing with what I said in the ad at the time. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I wrote an article on lathe lines on Canadian coins, some time ago... you can find them on different denominations over several decades. If you are a RCNA member, check out the CN Journal, December 2013 issue (p. 588-591). "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I wrote an article on lathe lines on Canadian coins, some time ago... you can find them on different denominations over several decades. I will have to look into that, Do you think they are worth holding onto? I have 2 full rolls now. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) |
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I think it's just a nipple...  |
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Posted 02/01/2021 01:23 am
