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A Question On Edge Imprinted Coins

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Has anyone noticed that when reading the printed date/mint mark and the E.Pluribus unum that the coin has to be 'heads' up to read it, or when the coin edge is imprinted there is a 5-/50 random chance of it reading it heads up?

Reason for asking , is that when placing my new Innovative P/D coins into my new binder I noticed that of the 18 coins - 11 of them you had to have 'tails' up to read it and the remainder (7) was heads up..

I'm pretty sure that the answer is random, but I would like your thoughts on this.
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Yes, completely random. I think some of the TPGs classify them as varieties. Position A and B or some nonsense like that. I personally think that's just silly.
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The blanks for business strikes are edge-incused in a separate step before the pressing and it is a (ahem) flip of the coin as to which side is "up" when it enters the press.

For proofs, it's always one position as the edge-incusing happens at the same time as the faces are pressed.
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NGC have some very interesting articles about edge lettering and variations.
At the bottom of this article you find more links about this topic.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/article/459/

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Speaking of edge printing, I don't like the date on the edge of the dollar coins...the obverse looks empty without the date; looks like a token, imho.
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Position A and B or some nonsense like that. I personally think that's just silly.
I agree.


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Speaking of edge printing, I don't like the date on the edge of the dollar coins...the obverse looks empty without the date; looks like a token, imho.
I agree with this, too.

I think edge lettering is annoying at best. No point in collecting both P & D if you cannot see the mint mark in the Dansco.

I settle for just the proof issues.
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The blanks for business strikes are edge-incused in a separate step before the pressing

On the President and NA dollars the edge inscription is applied after striking. On the early US coinage it was applied before striking, but those coins were not struck in a close collar. The 1804 Class I dollars were lettered before striking in a close collar and the striking crushed and partially wiped out the edge lettering. (The class III pieces were lettered after striking )
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I wonder who at the Mint even thought of edge printing on coins.
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I've seen some really neat foreign coin edge-printing, but my eyes find it somewhat out of place to see it on US coins. I wasn't even aware this was an issue; that the two types were printed without consideration of this seems, as others have said, silly
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I wonder if someone was thumbing their nose at TPGs buy proposing edge-incused *important* lettering.
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I wonder if someone was thumbing their nose at TPGs buy proposing edge-incused *important* lettering.
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people collect how they want, Some people want to collect Position A and position B edge lettering, and PCGS at least does the registry set category like that with Presidential dollars and major varieties errors, the whole nine as well as just the basic set category. or a basic satin finish set, ect.
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