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1964 Roosevelt Dime Proof Or SMS

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Is there a simple way to distiguse a normal 1964 proof dime from that of a SMS?
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to CCF. Post photos please.
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i might be incorrect - but I do not think there was a 1964 SMS...

if I am incorrect - the experts should be along soon and correct me...
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i also think the SMS sets - were in place of - proof sets...
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thank you for the correction...
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I regret to inform you that I am unable to provide adequate full coin pics. I will try my best. Close ups may be okay. I am working on it.
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Without photos ,does the 9 in the date have a spcecif style?
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Also, the rims are well defined as well as the breeding. It appears at first glace to be slightly thicker than business strike. Many and numerous die polish marks on both sides.
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This is definitely is not a business strike coin. Based on the information provided, do any of you know of markers to verify?
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Meanwhile, working on photos.
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Waiting on pictures, welcome to the forum.
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From my knowledge and understanding of the 1964 SMS coins, they were all found in an estate sale of a mint Director that had passed away and were all bought from that estate sale, and likely all graded at this point and sold at auctions (unless that person that initially bought them from the estate sale kept something secret that wasn't sent in for grading). You will never find a 1964 SMS coin in circulation, You will never find a complete set in OGP or pieced together in aftermarket packaging or a single in a proof set or something to be cherry picked because they all got bought and graded and sold by various auction houses and still sell from time to time to change hands in those auction houses.

they were test pieces that a mint director had and kept, and after they died they were sold at an auction, considered a "pattern". the only way something like that turns up is if one of the known pieces is stolen and put into circulation or accidentally put in circulation otherwise you are only ever going to find a 1964 SMS of any denomination at one of the big auction houses, and for big bucks.
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Gee, it begs the question why the Mint Director was permitted to keep what amounts to "government property" which was never issued to the public. Not too different a situation than the 1933 St. Gaudens or the 1964 Peace dollar.
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^^ rules for thee
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