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Need Help Identifying Possible Errors On A 1940 Canadian Penny

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 Posted 02/07/2021  6:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Eagle3Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The stem on the maple leaf, and the N and A of Canada seem to be errors to me. Any help greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 02/07/2021  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not errors.
Impossible for this to occur during the minting process.
Heavily damaged.
It would take a lot of force to displace the metal like that.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 02/07/2021  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eagle3Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you. I don't see any evidence of cut marks in those areas, but I don't know much about coins.
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to CCF. You should be able to pry up the displaced metal.
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Thank you. It doesn't move, it appears to be an actual part of the coin. I took some new pictures.
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Better pictures but the results are still the same . It is PMD.
There is no way that could happen during the striking of the coin so no
matter what happened after that, it is damage.
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 Posted 02/08/2021  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, definitely PMD. Something was thrust or hammered straight up that peeled the left leg of the "A" and the right leg and horizontal bar of the "N" and piled the peeled metal to the top of the "N" and the gap between the 2 letters. It may have happened in normal use or with something like a chisel, as mentioned by nickelsguy
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 Posted 02/08/2021  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eagle3Eye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help everyone.
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PMD, not only the N & A but also the stem up to A.
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It looks convincing, but I suppose the community is correct.
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Yes it does look convincing, as if it were struck this way, but there is no way that I can think of anyway, that this could be caused by the striking process of the coin.
It would have to occur after the coin is struck and is therefore considered after minting damage, which is just damage. Otherwise, we would all be making our own "errors".
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This came out of a batch of old coins my grandmother saved, which I inherited from my father. It looks even more convincing under magnification, but I think Bond632 is correct. I think it's really neat though and will save it in my collection.
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