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Here in my part of Oklahoma there is a serious run on bullion coins, both gold and silver. Folks are paying twice the spot price for silver one ounce coins. Gold coins are also commanding a huge premium. Anyone else out there buying bullion? If so please explain why? Does anyone seriously think our currency will collapse? It is hard for me to understand what is driving the demand.
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 Posted 12/17/2008  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Figman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Does anyone seriously think our currency will collapse?"

If it does, guns and gun ammunition will be worth more then silver.
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Folks are paying twice the spot price for silver one ounce coins. Gold coins are also commanding a huge premium. Anyone else out there buying bullion?


Anybody who's paying "twice the spot price for silver one ounce coins" should be buying from APMEX.com. I've been able to accumulate about 10 kilos of silver in the last year at about $14/ounce. Most is in the form of coins ( ASE & Maple Leafs). The Morgan and Peace dollars I have were roughly $15/ea and are AU common dates. The MS Live Cashback deal has saved me a chunk.

Common AGE and pre-'33 U.S. gold can be had for a 10% premium over spot and I've bought about a kilo. I've invested about $30K in PM in the last 18 months.

I don't think the U.S. dollar will collapse but do think that inflation will kick in hard in 2010-11. I'm betting on $1200 gold and $25 silver in 2010. It's a fun investment with numismatic kicks on the side!

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 Posted 12/17/2008  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Today, I bought 20 90% silver half dollars for $100.00. I think I did OK?
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Right now every coin dealer / seller in North America will confirm that silver / gold bullion is HOT, to a point that they claim it's " like money in the bank"! The reason being is quite obvious, the money market collapse. GOOGLE "The Great Depression", and you'll see all the factors of The Great Depression of the 1930's is lined up with what we are facing today.
Currently most people that I talk to with who have money put aside are now investing in HARD assets. This being gold/silver bullion , RARE paintings and coins. This is non-taxable, non tracable and if we go into DEPRESSION which I'm absolutely sure we're heading into, these are "time" proven investments! Now you know the latest trend, hurry and get in on it, we all have......................Glenn
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I don't think the currency would collapse. Gold and silver are like any market with a supply and demand. The whole "currency might collapse" thing probably adds a couple dollars on the spot price because some people actually believe this idea and purchase gold just for that reason. Gold is used in so many things these days, from electronics to jewelry. With computers selling like hot cakes over the past 10 years, this could explain why gold prices have been steadily rising, except now, due to the recession.

See, if Gold was such a life saver for world collapse than why did the price of gold drop at all during this current recession? It's because there is no real demand for gold right now due to the recession. People aren't buying as much jewelry these days or computers because people are saving their pennies. I just recently got laid off from my job due to the recession; I was in the Metal-Working industry for commercial and aerospace construction.

Gold is like any other commodity.

I guess if your particular countries dollar collapsed but the rest of the world was not affected by your dollar crash, than I guess Gold would be a life saver.

I think gold has been rising this month because of investor buying while its low, I don't believe the price is rising because of Supply and Demand.

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Wow, you guys are not kidding. I was in the local B&M coin shop over lunch, and he had a 10 oz bar that he wanted $3.00 over spot per oz for! And he said that he is paying $1.50 over whenever he has a chance to buy some. Talk about supply < Demand...
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I always wondered what people would do with all their silver if our currency did collapse. You can't eat metal. Wouldn't they be better off buying land to live off of?
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I always wondered what people would do with all their silver if our currency did collapse. You can't eat metal. Wouldn't they be better off buying land to live off of?


I got that in spades, my dad is a farmer in Western Kansas, and I figure my few oz of gold and many oz of silver should be more then enough to get me a tank of gas to get there, and maybe a snack along the way. I just wonder how bad it would have to get for my CC morgans to be worth more for silver content then numismatically. I can just picture myself not eating for a week, then deciding to trade them in for some rice or something...
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I heard Bill Gates is hording world Seeds and has them in a bunker in Amsterdam. See, that's the mind-set you need to deal with world collapse. Chemically free Seeds are an interesting investment due to the current trend among growers that genetically alter crops to produce larger and faster food.
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hording world Seeds and has them in a bunker in Amsterdam... ...growers that genetically alter crops


Amsterdam? Seeds? Riiiight, food crops, not cash crops...
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I'm hoarding free pizza coupons.
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seems to me if people are paying over spot price, then the spot price is not accurate.....
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large transactions of 5,000 plus ounces will get you pretty close to spot. Smaller items such as 10oz and 1oz you run into the fact that dealers still have inventory that they paid $15 plus an ounce for and are unwilling to take a loss on it. Just my 2 Cents worth..... If I was worried about a collapse I would be investing in non-perishable food stuffs. I guess that explains whiy there is no room in my pantry for any more rice and beans......
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MorganNoob, my older bro kind of makes fun of my new Coin Collecting hobby and says I should collect Pot seeds instead and become a real Bud connoisseur.
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Yes, food storage. When the car is paid off next year that money will go to food storage every month. My buddy plans to start utilizing his food storage to rotate it. I may do that to some extent, but food pantries are always open to unexpired food goods.

An investment, food security, and a tax deduction. Works for me.
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