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I just received this as a gift from a family friend. I see in my Krause that there are two versions of this coin, one of which is the normal BU and the other being a "special select" BU. I know that this is quite esoteric, but does anyone know what the difference may be between these two states of the coin?

Also, I have noticed that the plastic wrap of this coin is starting to yellow. Is this indicative of the plastic containing materials harmful to the coin?
Thanks!



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Where's ManilaGalleon? He's the expert on this

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I don't have my Krause catalog on hand but these coins come in BU (the one you have) and BU in numbered mint pack (the first 30,000 minted if my memory is correct). About the plastic, I don't know if it has any warmful harmful chemicals but since your coin is silver and is 7 years old and still good in the plastic I think it's better inside the plastic than outside.
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manilagalleontrade- ah, thanks! So this means that all of the normal BUs came in this type of plastic?
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after the 30,000 mintage
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Also, I have noticed that the plastic wrap of this coin is starting to yellow. Is this indicative of the plastic containing materials harmful to the coin?

Yellowing plastic shouldn't hurt the coin directly, but it is a sign that the plastic is degrading. The plastic may have become weaker and more brittle than it originally was, leaving it more prone to cracking and puncturing under stress, which would let air in and cause spotty, uneven tarnishing. But as long as you don't place unnecessary stress on the plastic, it should continue to do a good job of protecting the coin for many more years yet.
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Sap- Thanks!

I just wonder why they bothered to wrap an individual coin in plastic rather than put it in some sort of an airtight. I guess that the plastic wrap was just a cheaper way to seal it.
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Airtight capsules are for mintage that are fewer than 50,000. These 12 euros have a mintage of 2,000,000 to 4,000,000
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manilagalleontrade- well, my Krause says that the Special Select have a mintage of 25,000 and the normal BUs have a mintage of 1,500,000. Is it possible that the Krause Standard Catalog is wrong? (It is true that the Don Quixote commemorative did have a mintage of 4 million).
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Archraz, my mintage is not official

mine was just an estimate base on what I remember more or less as I don't have any catalog on hand. But the 25,000 is the first 25,000 of 1,500,000.

I didn't do bad with 30,000 and 2,000,000. Did I?
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I have a question:

Since the intrinsic silver content is less than its face value, do you just exchange 12 Euros for each or do you have to buy it with more?
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wd1040- This coin is a non-circulating commemorative coin, so I imagine that the person who bought it for me paid more than 12 euros for it. My Krause says that the normal BU version is worth $25, but the Special Select is worth $30.
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The previous year coins you won't find anymore in the banks. You will have to buy it at a higher price. Each bank branch will only have 10 to 20 pcs for their special clients which you can buy at face value. After that they all return it to the mint to sell it to the public at a higher price. If the mint has sold it all, then you will have to buy it at coins store for more money.
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By the wat these 12 euro coins are legal tender. you can spend it but it is very rare in circulation. People who get itin circulation keeps it or gives it back to the bank.
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manilagalleontrade- really people do spend these on occasion?! Weird.

I must admit that I have made a few trips to Spain in recent years and have noticed that it really is hard to find unusual coins in circulation. Yes, I realize that the Euro has only been produced for about 9 years now, but it seems that lower mintage years of every denomination are not to be found in circulation.
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yes, that is true. Even the commemorative 2 euros are hard to find. 2 euros have a maximum mintage of 200,000,000, while the commemorative have a low mintage of 4M to 8,000,000. But you have to take in consideration that spanish euros is not only collected by spanish collectors, but the whole of europe, not to mention other parts of the world, so 4M is not enough.
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