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Hi All, Would this coin be considered by PCGS as the "Black Beauty" error. Its in MS condition and has a clean dark black look with nice luster. I cant find anything online with same year and similar look let alone any auction comps to give me an idea of value. Is it worth sending in? Any help is appreciated.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Don't know how yours turned dark but if you heat a nickel up to cherry red with a torch then let it slowly cool back down you can achieve that exact coloring.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Exactly so!  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
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if you heat a nickel up to cherry red with a torch then let it slowly cool back down you can achieve that exact coloring. That's what it looks like to me as well.But hopefully TNG will respond he has example of the real thing. to the Forum. |
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Pillar of the Community
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what color is the edge? if it's the same color as the rest it's been heated.
if it's improper annealing of the planchet, then struck would have obliterated it in the collar the edge would be clean and smooth, and it would be lighter even if the coin had toned over the years than the rest of it still. just the ejection scrape of the collar on the press will leave clean areas on the edge or the entire edge clean from the movement of the metal.
That said every authenticated black beauty I've seen is nowhere near this dark. to me it looks like it was hot blackened by someone (converting a thin layer over the workpiece into Fe3o4 (magnetite), and not a black beauty which, contrary to the name, is more of a grey color than black.
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02/17/2021 5:05 pm
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New Member
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Big-Kingdom , The edge is the same color as the rest. Would XRF help determine if heated and converted to magnetite? thx.
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Rest in Peace
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Your Nickel is not a Black Beauty . It almost looks fake or could have been done to look that way by a heat source .
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Bedrock of the Community
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 It looks different than a Black Beauty, possibly altered. However, the edges on BBs are also dark, contrary to what @Big-Kingdom stated. At least on mine they are. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Bedrock of the Community
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If not a heat source (likely), some people rub in gun oil for a similar effect.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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But hopefully TNG will respond he has example of the real thing. I may have a couple "black beauties" but none that dark. It is possible to get one in that date. I have seen them in years 1953 1954 1955 1957 1958 1959 and some in the early 60's. I am not the guy to be an authority on these but when you find one and have it in hand, if it is AU-MS there is little doubt in my opinion whether it is real, artificial or environmental damage. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Oh, and the fields in this one shown look artificially blackened to me. Black beauties look more evenly colored to me.
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Rest in Peace
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Yes , the whole coin to me looks artificially blackened .  . |
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to the CCF! I'm a little worried about the lighter areas showing here and there. If it was a Black Beauty, it would be the same dark color all the way through the coin. Here's an image of an ANACS MS-64 Black Beauty from my collection.  ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
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Posted 02/17/2021 2:23 pm
