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1896 20 Cent Newfoundland?

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Hello! I seem to have lost my old account so I made another since my collecting has picked up recently. Can anyone help me determine the variety on this 20 cent? Obv1, Obv2, Large date, Small date? Thanks everyone.

1896-20-Cent-Newfoundland?
1896-20-Cent-Newfoundland?
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 Posted 02/25/2021  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Please show us full pics of both sides of the coin with images right-side up.



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Hard to tell the Variety when the main marker is in the wreath which you don't show. Looking at the lip can sometimes be deceiving.
Always show complete photo of both sides of the coin.
Also there is no Large Date or Small Date in 1896, there is a small W and large W . Yours is the small W variety
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Thank you for letting me know about the wreath I will post full pic when I get home. If there's no large and small date why is it listed that way in coins Canada?

20 cents 1896 - Obverse # 1 - Large 96 : 125,000
20 cents 1896 - Obverse # 1 - Small 96 : n/a
20 cents 1896 - Obverse # 2 - Small 96 : n/a
20 cents 1896 - Obverse # 2 - Large 96 : n/a
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Your right, I was just going by the Charlton catalogue which usually has
all the varieties listed. Don't know why they omitted this one.
Anyhow, I did some further checking and yours is a Large Date.
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This would be a large 96. The 9 and 6 digits are fatter than the small 96's.

It is incorrect to say Obverse 1 and Obverse 2 because that is different. Obverse1 coins were struck 1865 - 1894, and Obverse 2 from 1894 -1900.

The NT1 and NT2 varieties have very little difference. This one looks like Portrait NT2 but hard to tell with the best of examples. The value between having a NT1 or NT2 doesn't hardly vary.

Also, there is no Large or small W variety of the 1896. That's the 1898 50 cent.
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Thank you everyone for your information, it is greatly appreciated! May I ask what NT1 and NT2 means?
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The Charleton defines varieties based on the Obverse side by differentiating between two slightly different busts and calling them NT1 and NT2.

If you go to Chapters you can read through the Charleton, or just buy one if you like.
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 Posted 02/26/2021  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinman91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ahh I see it now, thank you! I will have to purchase me a copy as right now I simply resort to researching varieties online.
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@TheDeductible....

Actually, according to CoinsandCanada, the 1896 coins are not only Large & Small date varieties, but in face have Obverses 1 & 2 for each date variety.
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