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1883 O Morgan For Grading (Updated Pics)

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Hey all. Got this the other day. This coin shows very few marks in the fields or devices. The only thing that concerns me is what appears to be die file lines across both sides. How much does this affect grade? Thanks in advance.
The image optimizer has distorted the lines in my pics. These lines do run parallel though. From 7-8 to 1-2 o clock on the obverse and from 4-5 to 10-11 on reverse.


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 Posted 03/03/2021  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm liking it. Always risky being first but I'm going to say MS64.
Could do with some bigger photos if possible?
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I'll get some better pictures with better light as soon as I get home. These were taken last night under a 75 watt incandescent.
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I'm seeing MS64 as well.

The lines you see are often referred to as roller wheel marks form the draw bench that flattened silver ingots into strips the correct thickness for dollar planchets. Some imparted grooves that were too deep to clean up during the minting process.

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 Posted 03/03/2021  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say MS-64 as well, but sure would like to see larger pics.
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Hopefully these are better.


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A checkout to vamworld.com should help id your VAM number, and with an average grade of MS-64.
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I believe Dave700x cleared it up for me. Thanks again everyone for the input.
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Do the roller wheel marks affect the grade? Looks like a clean cheek and relatively clean fields. Why not a 65?
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I like the way you think psuman08.
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 Posted 03/04/2021  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You guys are tough, I see this one at MS-65.
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I'm at MS-64. The roller marks are distracting, and the luster is only fair.
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That's why I said 64 because I felt the lustre was a little dull, I actually felt like putting 63 but I'm glad I put 64 as everyone else has agreed.
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strike is about average for an 83(O). the reverse is a little on the tip of the left wing and some of the higher profile leaves. possibly broken luster across the cheek and a couple other surface areas but could from lighting. MS64+
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 Posted 03/08/2021  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will say MS-65
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